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Bug 49357 - Increase WMF cluster default image thumb size (tracking)
Increase WMF cluster default image thumb size (tracking)
Status: NEW
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: Low enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: community-consensus-needed, platformeng
Depends on: 67709 16739 27839 41712 47332
Blocks: 69973
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Reported: 2013-06-09 11:18 UTC by Marco
Modified: 2014-08-26 07:21 UTC (History)
14 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Marco 2013-06-09 11:18:58 UTC
The 220px thumbnails are too small considering the great amount of high resolution displays [1] and the growing number of dpi on mobile devices. I think it is mandatory to change this in the next two years or so. Otherwise the user experience will drop significantly.

Currently there are discussions about the technical problems on how to implement this:

* Bug 41712 comment 14 states some caching problems when setting the standard thumbnail width for each wiki separately and (possibly) different. Therefore I'd suggest to change the default globally.
* Another proposal [2] suggests to "store only preferred-size thumbnails indefinitely"
...

In the past a few site requests had community consensus but were closed as "WONTFIX" due to server performance issues. (See bug 47332 for example)
Though community consensus is needed for a possible patch of this bug to be merged the technical details should be discussed first.


[1] http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_resolution_higher.asp
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Standardized_thumbnails_sizes#Caching_strategy_23835
Comment 1 Tomasz W. Kozlowski 2013-06-09 17:10:50 UTC
I guess it's related to [1] in some way?

== References ==
* [1] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Standardized_thumbnails_sizes>
Comment 2 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2013-06-09 19:30:33 UTC
This should be handled through the RFC process, not via a bug request :-)

During the Amsterdam hackaton, we have agreed to review the list of pending RFC to cleanup / assign priorities to them.  Hopefully the Standardized Thumbnails Size will receive some focus and have some team "in charge".
Comment 3 Marco 2013-06-10 14:12:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> I guess it's related to [1] in some way?
> 
> == References ==
> * [1]
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/
> Standardized_thumbnails_sizes>

Related but not identical. The bug request is about the site request "increasing the default thumbnail size" rather than a solution to the caching problems, CPU usage, etc. Though it seems the caching issues etc. have to be solved first.
Comment 4 This, that and the other (TTO) 2014-07-09 02:13:19 UTC
*** Bug 67709 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Greg Grossmeier 2014-07-11 19:13:31 UTC
Marco, this request is old and was overlooked, it seems, when this newer request was filed here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67703
"Change default thumbnail size to 300px based on user behavior"

Would a change to 300px be sufficient for closing this bug as well?
Comment 7 Vogone 2014-07-11 23:11:23 UTC
Shouldn't this apply to all MediaWiki installations if implemented, meaning not only to Wikimedia projects?
Comment 8 Greg Grossmeier 2014-07-11 23:19:17 UTC
I think that is the ultimate plan, yes
Comment 9 James Forrester 2014-07-11 23:25:58 UTC
(In reply to Vogone from comment #7)
> Shouldn't this apply to all MediaWiki installations if implemented, meaning
> not only to Wikimedia projects?

Bug 67703 is the bug for making the change to the default settings of MediaWiki itself, as opposed to the WMF cluster of wikis.
Comment 10 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) 2014-07-11 23:40:10 UTC
JamesF logged that bug and it got closed as a duplicate of this one. But yes the goal is that it affect wikimedia wikis and or the default on mediaeiki as well
Comment 11 Andre Klapper 2014-07-12 12:15:16 UTC
(In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #10)
> JamesF logged that bug and it got closed as a duplicate of this one.

Whoops. I'll reopen.
Comment 12 This, that and the other (TTO) 2014-07-12 12:25:43 UTC
Why is bug 67709 not a duplicate? There are two separate issues here:

* this bug (and bug 67709) - increase thumb size on WMF cluster
* bug 67703 - increase thumb size for MediaWiki
Comment 13 Bartosz Dziewoński 2014-08-21 17:01:51 UTC
Let's make this a tracking bug for increasing size and bug 67709 a request for particular size (300px). That's going to be less messy than duping them.

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