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Bug 47332 - en.Wikivoyage: increase default image thumb size to 270 and change user prefs thumb size choices
en.Wikivoyage: increase default image thumb size to 270 and change user prefs...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
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: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Blocks: 49357
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Reported: 2013-04-17 19:38 UTC by rogerhc
Modified: 2014-08-21 20:37 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description rogerhc 2013-04-17 19:38:56 UTC
For English Wikivoyage please:


1. Change user preferences image thumbnail size choices to 120px, 150px, 180px, 220px, 270px, 300px, 350px, 400px, 450px and 500px.

Related docs:  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgThumbLimits


2. And increase default image thumbnail size on en.Wikivoyage to 270px.

Related docs:
* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions
* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_default_user_preferences.3F


Local discussion and consensus is at http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Image_policy#Proposal_to_change_default_thumbnail_size


Thank you
Comment 1 Dereckson 2013-04-17 21:26:47 UTC
See also bug 41712.
Comment 2 Tomasz W. Kozlowski 2013-04-17 21:52:00 UTC
Oh, thanks for posting the link, Dereckson; I assumed it would be pretty easy for us to set a different thumbnail size for a wiki.

Quoting hashar from bug 41712, comment 14: 

  It is not reasonable for us to handle different thumbnail sizes per wiki for
  the following reasons:
    - we keep thumbnails forever currently, the more we have the more disk space
    it takes
    - different sizes lower the cache hit rate which in turns cause...
    - ... a CPU cost on the cluster to generate a thumbnail, varying the sizes
    cause more and more thumbnails generations
    - whenever a file is updated, we have to purge each thumbnails ever
    generated.

I'm afraid this is a WONTFIX until decided otherwise, per bug 27839 and bug 41712, then. (I'm also adding this to [[m:Limits to configuration changes]] for future reference; also un-assigning myself from this bug.)
Comment 3 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2013-04-17 21:54:47 UTC
We are all sorry about the wontfix :(  That simply does not scale for us right now but we might end up with a nice solution one day.
Comment 4 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-04-17 21:59:33 UTC
Related URL: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59739 (Gerrit Change Ie8da7ea68dc3e2518d5f84e085992ae9f2f0a86e)
Comment 5 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-04-17 22:23:24 UTC
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59739 (Gerrit Change Ie8da7ea68dc3e2518d5f84e085992ae9f2f0a86e) | change ABANDONED [by Dzahn]
Comment 6 Ryan Holliday 2013-10-06 16:24:01 UTC
Since this is already marked WONTFIX I'm not sure if this is the right place to comment, but English Wikivoyage is trying to standardize on a larger thumbnail size (270px), which seems more appropriate for a travel guide where images play a larger role in illustrating the article content.

We're trying to figure out if we need to run a bot to standardize image sizes, so before doing so I'd like to better understand the logic behind not changing the default thumbnail size and whether or not that option really is a non-starter.  If the concern is performance, wouldn't the same performance issue be encountered whether the default thumbnail size is "270px" or whether we manually change all images to be "thumb|270px"?  If so, wouldn't it make more sense to change the default thumbnail size so that users who add new images with the "thumb" syntax don't have that image generated twice (once when they first add it, and again when it gets resized to the standard sizing)?  That would have the added benefit of making our image syntax simpler since we wouldn't need to manually specify sizes for each and every image.

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