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Bug 29944 - Enable UploadWizard for Hindi Wikipedia
Enable UploadWizard for Hindi Wikipedia
Status: RESOLVED LATER
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Extension setup (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B...
: shell
Depends on: 29955
Blocks: 31071 29823
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Reported: 2011-07-18 09:58 UTC by Mayur
Modified: 2011-11-29 21:48 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Description Mayur 2011-07-18 09:58:36 UTC
Enable UploadWizard for Hindi Wikipedia as per following

'wmgUseUploadWizard' => array(

   'default' => false,
   'hiwiki' => true,


Local consensus can be found here-

http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A7%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%81,

Regards
Mayur
Comment 1 Sam Reed (reedy) 2011-07-18 12:47:31 UTC
At the moment there are no hindi translations for Upload Wizard, so enabling it is silly at this point. Please re-open when translations are somewhere near complete

As an aside, I'm not sure if UploadWizard is mature enough to be installed on other projects
Comment 2 Mayur 2011-07-18 12:53:07 UTC
Sorry, we will make translation for all messages as soon as this extension is installed, about 11 user have given their support for this extension.There are many extensions for which localization has not been done as per requirement.Plz don't close such bugs only due to translation.
Comment 3 Sam Reed (reedy) 2011-07-18 12:56:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> Sorry, we will make translation for all messages as soon as this extension is
> installed, about 11 user have given their support for this extension.There are
> many extensions for which localization has not been done as per requirement.Plz
> don't close such bugs only due to translation.

It's a valid way to deal with the bugs. I'm RESOLVING it LATER this time, as in, we'll deal with it LATER AFTER the issues have been fixed

It's still to be determined whether it's fit/allowable to be installed per the WMF's decision
Comment 4 Mayur 2011-07-18 13:03:45 UTC
I am reopening this bug as I don't see any issue to Wikimedia foundation regarding this extension bcoz this  extension has no security concern and it is already running smoothly on Wikimedia commons.

if still you think to take this to WMF then We are ready to do this.
Comment 5 Sam Reed (reedy) 2011-07-18 13:06:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> I am reopening this bug as I don't see any issue to Wikimedia foundation
> regarding this extension bcoz this  extension has no security concern and it is
> already running smoothly on Wikimedia commons.
> 
> if still you think to take this to WMF then We are ready to do this.

First please get the extension translated. Then come back, and we can look at enabling it
Comment 6 Mayur 2011-07-18 13:10:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > I am reopening this bug as I don't see any issue to Wikimedia foundation
> > regarding this extension bcoz this  extension has no security concern and it is
> > already running smoothly on Wikimedia commons.
> > 
> > if still you think to take this to WMF then We are ready to do this.
> 
> First please get the extension translated. Then come back, and we can look at
> enabling it

Can you share Wikimedia policy which states such translation requirement of an new extension only to be on transalte wiki.
Comment 7 Ariel T. Glenn 2011-07-18 13:15:44 UTC
Translations per project don't make it into the code base (i.e. subversion).  Thus they are not available to others.  The point of per-project translations is for local customization; they are not meant to supplant the default translation in any way whatsoever.  For example, in MediaWiki:Newarticletext  you may want the link to go to a different location than the standard one, or you may want to add additional information regarding formatting. That is the sort of thing that gets done locally.
Comment 8 Mayur 2011-07-18 13:19:43 UTC
Ok, but I am not satisfied with this new funda of translation that first make translation then a extension will be enabled.It is first time when I am observing such type of Activities by Developers.Our users are not used to translate wiki that why i requested for local translation.But Its OK I myself make translation there on translate wiki.
Comment 9 Ariel T. Glenn 2011-07-18 13:21:46 UTC
I would recommend walking a few folks through the process of getting set up on translatewiki; the tools are quite nice and they'll be helping out all potential users of MediaWiki in hindi in the future.  I can appreciate that it will take a little bit of time to get used to the environment over there but I think you'll like it.
Comment 10 Mayur 2011-07-18 16:16:04 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > I am reopening this bug as I don't see any issue to Wikimedia foundation
> > regarding this extension bcoz this  extension has no security concern and it is
> > already running smoothly on Wikimedia commons.
> > 
> > if still you think to take this to WMF then We are ready to do this.
> 
> First please get the extension translated. Then come back, and we can look at
> enabling it

We have translated nearly all messages for this on Translate Wiki, Can it be enabled now
Comment 11 Casey Brown 2011-07-18 16:17:24 UTC
Release should be coordinated with and approved by NeilK first, he's on CC.

Neil, can this be enabled on hiwiki? Or should hiwiki wait until it is enabled by default?
Comment 12 Mayur 2011-07-18 16:28:35 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Release should be coordinated with and approved by NeilK first, he's on CC.
> 
> Neil, can this be enabled on hiwiki? Or should hiwiki wait until it is enabled
> by default?

I think we as a translator have done our part as per requirement of Developers.if this extension has no security concern then it should be enabled on hi wiki now.
Comment 13 Neil Kandalgaonkar 2011-07-18 16:40:43 UTC
Hello -- I'm the main developer on UploadWizard.

I think it could definitely work on HI wiki, but we just have to understand your use cases. Right now UploadWizard is focused on Commons' needs.

The Wiki Loves Monuments project is coming up and we're using that to make UploadWizard more configurable for different projects and wikis.


- What licenses are you going to need? Does HI wiki allow fair use? Do you want to "transparently" upload to Commons if the license is compatible with Commons? (in theory we can do this but we've never tried).  Do you want the HI Commons licensing tutorial or some other splash screen?

- As mentioned above, we need translations for HI?

- Any layout bugs that might arise in HI

FYI, although I have an Indian name, I don't speak any Indian languages.
Comment 14 Mayur 2011-07-18 16:45:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> Hello -- I'm the main developer on UploadWizard.
> 
> I think it could definitely work on HI wiki, but we just have to understand
> your use cases. Right now UploadWizard is focused on Commons' needs.
> 
> The Wiki Loves Monuments project is coming up and we're using that to make
> UploadWizard more configurable for different projects and wikis.
> 
> 
> - What licenses are you going to need? Does HI wiki allow fair use? Do you want
> to "transparently" upload to Commons if the license is compatible with Commons?
> (in theory we can do this but we've never tried).  Do you want the HI Commons
> licensing tutorial or some other splash screen?
> 
> - As mentioned above, we need translations for HI?
> 
> - Any layout bugs that might arise in HI
> 
> FYI, although I have an Indian name, I don't speak any Indian languages.

We just want to use it as Wikimedia commons and We are also opting licensees tutorial available in common, that why i filed separate bug got this.
Comment 15 Neil Kandalgaonkar 2011-07-18 17:04:58 UTC
Just (In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> We just want to use it as Wikimedia commons and We are also opting licensees
> tutorial available in common, that why i filed separate bug got this.

To clarify, are you saying:

1 - You want the exact same licenses as Commons, except it uploads to HI Wikipedia. You do not want fair use media.

2 - You want it to upload to Commons, but the page should be on HI Wikipedia.

3 - You just want your "Upload a file" link to go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard except with a HI interface.

Also, presumably, at the "Use" step, do you want the links to be customized for HI wikipedia?
Comment 16 Mayur 2011-07-18 17:13:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> Just (In reply to comment #14)
> > (In reply to comment #13)
> > We just want to use it as Wikimedia commons and We are also opting licensees
> > tutorial available in common, that why i filed separate bug got this.
> 
> To clarify, are you saying:
> 
> 1 - You want the exact same licenses as Commons, except it uploads to HI
> Wikipedia. You do not want fair use media.
> 
> 2 - You want it to upload to Commons, but the page should be on HI Wikipedia.
> 
> 3 - You just want your "Upload a file" link to go to
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard except with a HI
> interface.
> 
> Also, presumably, at the "Use" step, do you want the links to be customized for
> HI wikipedia?

We want this extension to be enabled on hindi WIkipedia, Commons don't allow use of non-free media, So we preferably don't want to transfer the image to common to avoid any contovery between commons admin and hi wiki admins.We want this extension with standard liecenses few of them will be customised for hi wiki.
Comment 17 Vaibhav Jain 2011-07-18 17:19:20 UTC
We want some other licences also which are available for Wikipedia, but not
commons. We just want a similar upload wizard so users get experienced with the
licencing and as its a interactive wizard, it helps in easier uploading.
Comment 18 Neil Kandalgaonkar 2011-07-18 17:55:13 UTC
Blocking on #29955, which should make UploadWizard compatible with fair use uploading
Comment 19 Sam Reed (reedy) 2011-07-19 01:22:03 UTC
Marking later, blocked until bug 29955 is fixed

When it's fixed, please feel free to reopen the bug

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