Last modified: 2005-11-15 22:21:18 UTC
See: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Bugzilla_1512 Regards Reinhardt
Dear friends, there are a few errors related to the special characters (c+x, ... u+x) used in Esperanto especially if the combinations "c" and "x", ... "u" and "x" required to generate them schould be used in titels as [[Bordeaux]]. Both functions at [[:eo:]] and interlanguage links to and from [[:eo: are affected. The error description is in English. Lease feel free to contact me if you need further details. Regards Reinhardt
A brief description in German is available at [[:de:Benutzer Diskussion:FlaBot#eo: und Bugzilla:1512]] .
a brief information to [[sourceforge:projects/pywikipediabot]] was posted at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6600723&forum_id=36014
[attempt at a more descriptive summary; please correct it if I've misrepresented the central problem under discussion]
Hallo! Please see pages linked trough interlanguage links to http://www.wikipage.de/de/index.php/Andr%C3%A9_Malraux Because the interwiki links at wikipage are actualy "n * n" and not using a gateway as Wikipedia is using with [[en:]] I could not experience interlanguage failurs at WikiPage. At Wikipedia [[eo:André MALRAUXX]] will fail despite the fact that *two* X's are used. The link would lead anyway to [[eo:André MALRAŬ]] which is a *temporary* redirect to be able to reach these titles. After some months of dealing with this error and asking bots to handle it properly (to use double X#s) I recomend *now* that interlanguage links to these titles at [[eo:]] should be KISS, that normal "copy and paste" of the titles should be the right way: [[eo:André MALRAUX]] and *not* [[eo:André MALRAUXX]], [[eo:Bordeaux]] and *not* [[eo:Bordeauxx]]. I assume that the InterLanguage bug to [[eo:]] could be found (and hope that it would be fixed) in the gateway configuration at [[en:]]. Other gateways as [[meta:]] should be verified as well. Note: Beside this error the *original* bug report / linked description and the *original* title ("interlanguage problems and others") mentions a lot of other bug with improper character conversion for many actions; edit, purge; watch *at [[eo:]]* where you will return to [[eo:André MALRAŬ]] and *not* to [[eo:André MALRAUX]] after these actions. If it is necessary to split these bugs just commnet here. Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
related to the Esperanto character conversion: bug 2942: "Esperanto characters in image names are not handled correctly"
I find this rather problematic. Check for example the Esperanto page [[Bordeaux]]. This is being interpreted as [[Bordeaŭ]], which is redirected to [[Bordeauxx]] = [[Bordeaux]] as a repair. However, if one goes to that page (even if by typing Bordeauxx as the page one goes to), and then clicks the edit page, one gets the edit page for [[Bordeaŭ]] = [[Bordeaux]]. The page itself cannot be edited, except by changing the edit page URL by hand.
in response to comment #7 Halló André! Thanks for your comment! I addressed this issue during the Wikimania MediaWiki workshop and asked about how and when reported bugs are handled / fixed because this particular bug was reported a half of year before. I do not recall the answer exactly but it seams that there are no "rigid" procedures and fixing depends on availablity of developers and that "people are able to understand the reports". At the workshop I mentioned the impacts on InterWiki links and bots. Magic character conversion is Esperanto is less tricky as editing BiDi text and not browser dependent. It seams that some / many functions do not care about it (magic character conversion is Esperanto). Another example then mentioned by you is adding / removing an article to / from your whatchlist which was mentioned at the initial URL. Whitout the available (od some) redirects as [[eo:Rosa Luxemburg]] it would not be possible to access these pages trough wiki links: [[eo:Speciala:Whatlinkshere/Roza_LUKSEMBURG]] shows "Rosa LUXEMBURG". However if you click on the displayed link no redirect is available because this link translates to http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rosa_LUXEMBURG&redirect=no and *not* to http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rosa_LUXXEMBURG&redirect=no It would be great if this could be fixed. Whoever would work on this will have my full support providing test cases and feedback. Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
*** Bug 2942 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I've now disabled the interpretation of X-code in incoming links. That was always problematic, but got nastier and more obvious once the referrer check was removed before conversion. (Editing should not be affected; items there should be properly converted in both directions still).
in reply to comment #10 > I've now disabled the interpretation of X-code in incoming links. That > was always problematic, but got nastier and more obvious once the > referrer check was removed before conversion. > > (Editing should not be affected; items there should be properly > converted in both directions still). please see bug 3609 migration of interlanguage links to Esperanto wikis
leaving this bug as fixed please see bug 3615: blocks of code not handling magic character conversions in Esperanto correcty - reason for page deletion