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Bug 3611 - keep Esperanto magical conversion for InterLanguage links in projects with content language = Esperanto
keep Esperanto magical conversion for InterLanguage links in projects with co...
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
1.6.x
All All
: Normal normal with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t...
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Blocks: 3985 3609
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Reported: 2005-10-05 12:50 UTC by lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Modified: 2005-11-15 22:22 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-05 12:50:03 UTC
Hallo!

Sorry for this:

If you edit [[eo:André MALRAUX]]
http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andr%C3%A9_MALRAUX&action=edit

you will see InterLanguage links as:
[[bg:Андре Малро]]
[[de:André Malraux]]
[[en:André Malraux]]
[[es:André Malraux]]
[[fr:André Malraux]]
[[ja:アンドレ・マルロー]]
[[pl:André Malraux]]
[[ro:André Malraux]]

However Esperanto magical conversion is activated for InterLanguage links which
means that [[de:André Malraŭ]]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Malra%C5%AD is generated and not
[[de:André Malraux]] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Malraux .

Hope that fixing this is possible soon. Thanks in advance for all your efforts.

Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 1 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-05 13:00:23 UTC
addendum

Note: The InterLanguage links at [[eo:Aldous HUXLEY]] will work (*now* - at this
moment in time) because they contain:

[[da:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[de:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[en:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[es:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[eu:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[fi:Aldous Huxxley]]
[[fr:Aldous Huxxley]]
...

The coding used u+x+x is not compatible with the KISS principle necessary for
"copies and pasts".

Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 2 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-05 13:11:02 UTC
addition related to comment #1
> Note: The InterLanguage links at [[eo:Aldous HUXLEY]] will work (*now* - at this
> moment in time) because they contain:
> 
> [[da:Aldous Huxxley]] ...

see http://eo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aldous_HUXLEY&diff=274816&oldid=267002

bot software should be fixed to whatever method would be (re)implemented
Comment 3 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-05 17:57:55 UTC
Hallo!

It seems to be questionable
- if the requirement of this bug can be implemented at all
- if it makes sense
- if it can cover all cases.

Please note
- that the French language has a lot of words and names containing "aux"
- see [[la:Specialis:Allpages/Crux]]
- see [[en:Jiangxi]] using "gx" which differs from "ĝ"

- there are projects where both forms "gx" and "ĝ" are used:
-- http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Allpages/%C4%88
-- http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/%C4%88efpa%C4%9Do:Esperanto
-- commons: meta: etc.

- there are other projects in Esperanto then Wikipedia (
[[eo:Speciala:Allpages/Willy_VANDERSTEEN]] )
-- http://eo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Speciala:Allpages
-- http://eo.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Speciala:Allpages
-- http://eo.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Speciala:Allpages 

I see no simple way that the "editor" can distinguish links to other languages /
other projects and generate either the "aux" variant or "aŭ" variant etc.
because it would require atributes in the interlanguage table.

Maybe the simplest way would be keep the actual *escape* sequence in Esperanto
projects:
[[eo:Aldous HUXLEY]] would contain *da:Aldous_Huxxley* which would generate
[[da:Aldous_Huxley]]. This must be communicated trough village pumps, mailing lists.

*Note:* This solution contradicts copy and past.

Bot software should be adapted / updated if necessary. Dozens of InterLanguage
links from Esperanto projects to other languages must be fixed.

Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 4 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-05 18:01:07 UTC
changed summary to oposit
from
*deactivate* Esperanto magical conversion for InterLanguage links in Esperanto
projects
to
*keep* Esperanto magical conversion for InterLanguage links in projects with
content language = Esperanto
Comment 5 Brion Vibber 2005-10-05 19:16:23 UTC
The entire text field is translated on input; the actual stored text contains no 
double-Xs. There's no way to magically distinguish what you "meant" not to be 
translated. If you want a machine interface for the wiki for bots to use instead of 
the human one, please write one.

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