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Bug 9884 - Grant "deletedhistory" permissions to CheckUser group
Grant "deletedhistory" permissions to CheckUser group
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
All All
: Normal enhancement with 4 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
Depends on:
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Reported: 2007-05-11 23:49 UTC by Alain Riazuelo
Modified: 2011-01-25 01:37 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Description Alain Riazuelo 2007-05-11 23:49:48 UTC
I am checkuser on fr: wikipedia. In some cases, a request for checkuser is done
after a vandal's edit have been deleted (as they should be in some cases, i.e.,
for privacy issues or defamation). Deleted vandal edits prevent me from knowing
their usual vandalism pattern, since I am not sysop. This is annoying as it
prevents me from recognizing some "active" vandals. Several checkusers are not
sysops on fr: wikipedia. What would be therefore needed would be to grant to
checkusers access to deleted edits, without any other sysop's rights.
Comment 1 Rob Church 2007-05-11 23:52:10 UTC
Changing to site configuration issue.
Comment 2 Aaron Schulz 2007-05-12 01:00:17 UTC
Why aren't the checkuser's sysops?
Comment 3 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-05-13 00:56:48 UTC
Consensus is needed for this.  Please start a discussion on frwiki to get 
agreement for this and link to the result.
Comment 4 Manuel Menal 2007-05-13 14:53:18 UTC
Voice of All: Because they're two different tasks, and people are not always
interested in maintenance, hence in sysop tools. Alain is a member of the frwp
ArbCom, so he's trusted, but he's not a sysop (and doesn't want to be, AFAIK).

I'm a bit surprised by the summary change - AFAICS, granting "delete"
permissions to CU would allow them to delete pages, which should stay a
sysop-only right. CU should only be able to *see* deleted edits. Unfortunately,
I don't think there is a specific permission for that (deletedhistory only
allows seeing the history entries, not the revs). Could this be clarified before
a discussion is started?
Comment 5 Brion Vibber 2007-05-14 15:05:44 UTC
That is a maintenance task, hence sysop. Being sysop does not require that one
fight every single vandal.
Comment 6 Brion Vibber 2007-05-14 16:01:01 UTC
May deserve further discussion for read-only access to stuff. (Might require a
little coding per above notes about permissions not being wide enough to allow
viewing details without actual delete priv.)
Comment 7 Chad H. 2007-07-20 22:54:12 UTC
What about access to the new Special:Deletedcontributions?

They wouldn't be able to see the individual edits (because they're not sysops and can't open the deleted pages), but they could at least see *what* pages were being edited.
Comment 8 Aaron Schulz 2009-09-12 19:00:40 UTC
'deletedhistory' lets users browse sp:deletedcontributions
Comment 9 Aaron Schulz 2009-10-07 20:15:59 UTC

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