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Bug 72852 - Unregistered editing shouldn't require 3 clicks
Unregistered editing shouldn't require 3 clicks
Status: PATCH_TO_REVIEW
Product: MobileFrontend
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Unprioritized enhancement
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Depends on:
Blocks: 53069
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Reported: 2014-11-01 07:10 UTC by Nemo
Modified: 2014-11-14 15:14 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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2014-11-11 18:59 UTC, Florian
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Description Nemo 2014-11-01 07:10:23 UTC
0) Set $wgMFAnonymousEditing = true;
1) Visit a random page, like http://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinazionali?uselang=en , as unregistered user

I. Observed: nothing in the interface tells me that I'm logged out, AFAICS, unless I click the triple-line button to show the menu.

2) Click an unlocked pencil icon

II. Observed: at the bottom of the screen a box appears:

Help improve this page!

Log in
Sign up Edit without logging in

III. Expected: I proceed to the next step with no need to click "Edit without logging in"

3) Do click

IV. Observed: a new screen loads, "Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits."

4) Click "Next" button above the message, in top-right corner

V. Observed: I finally am presented an edit text area.
Comment 1 Bingle 2014-11-01 07:15:13 UTC
Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Trello card https://trello.com/c/DnF3d7ic
Comment 2 Florian 2014-11-01 15:34:24 UTC
If i remember correctly, the Cta (click to action) drawer is one of the requirements for mobile editing, Maryana? :)
Comment 3 Gerrit Notification Bot 2014-11-11 18:59:12 UTC
Change 172582 had a related patch set uploaded by Florianschmidtwelzow:
Proposal: Merge CtaDrawer with EditorOverlay Anonwarning

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172582
Comment 4 Florian 2014-11-11 18:59:36 UTC
Created attachment 17097 [details]
Example of above change
Comment 5 Nemo 2014-11-11 19:31:14 UTC
(In reply to Florian from comment #4)
> Created attachment 17097 [details]
> Example of above change

Looks good. A separate enhancement request would be to place the "continue editing" button as first (and blue) button.
Comment 6 Jon 2014-11-11 21:08:15 UTC
Very cool. The app asks you to login/register at the end of the workflow which is what I think we need to build towards and this seems like a good first step :)

Can we only enable this when anonymous editing is enabled for time being (we may also want to consider beta/alpha first to leave time for translations)? It would be good to compare data for sign ups/anon edits ratio via overlay vs cta. I think we lack a lot of data around editing workflows and we should be aiming to collect as much as possible. (FYI I'm monitoring Italian Wikipedia edits in my spare time to make cases for enabling anon editing elsewhere so I'm keen to see how much they increase and how much registrations/logins are effected - main concern is does the warning put off people from registering/editing as authenticated user)
Comment 7 Nemo 2014-11-11 21:16:25 UTC
(In reply to Jon from comment #6)
> Can we only enable this when anonymous editing is enabled for time being (we
> may also want to consider beta/alpha first to leave time for translations)?

Ignore me if the question wasn't for me; but I think everyone would agree that whatever makes you more confident merging the change is fine.

> FYI I'm monitoring Italian
> Wikipedia edits in my spare time

Thank you!
Comment 8 Florian 2014-11-11 21:25:12 UTC
@Jon: Actually it affects only anonymous editing. If it is disabled you will see the "normal" Cta (or in stable/beta if wgMFAnonymousEditing is false like on any wiki except itwiki until December).

> A separate enhancement request would be to place the "continue editing" button as first (and blue) button.

Hmm, i'm not happy with such suggestion (but it's my personal opinion). Our goal should be to give the user all possible ways (including editing without logging in, which is a key feature of wikipedia), but login/signup should be more prominent.

> Can we only enable this when anonymous editing is enabled for time being (we may also want to consider beta/alpha first to leave time for translations)?

See above, the change takes affect, when:
wiki <> itwiki && alpha mode
or
wiki == itwiki && time() < strtotime(01.12.2014)

> It would be good to compare data for sign ups/anon edits ratio via overlay vs cta

Atm i don't know, what is logged around the cta, but it should be enough to know, if the user is in stable/beta (CtaDrawer) or in alpha mode (Cta in EditorOverlay). So i think we can use the colledted data after the test of itwiki finished? :)

> The app asks you to login/register at the end of the workflow which is what I think we need to build towards and this seems like a good first step :)

Yeah! :D
Comment 9 Aaron Halfaker 2014-11-14 15:14:57 UTC
The data is not out here.  We have lots of evidence that making the "continue editing" default or at least more prominent is desired.  

> login/signup should be more prominent.

We tried this on desktop and saw huge productivity losses.  We were able to regain those some of those loses when we made "continue editing" clear and prominent.  

See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Asking_anonymous_editors_to_register

In my professional opinion (it is my job after all), driving anonymous editors to register does not seem to be meeting any of our goals -- to have more editors and to help those editors work productively.  

Here, I think that personal opinion needs to bow to empirical observation.

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