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Bug 68298 - Give sysops deleterevision rights by default
Give sysops deleterevision rights by default
Status: PATCH_TO_REVIEW
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Revision deletion (Other open bugs)
1.24rc
All All
: Low enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nathan Larson
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Depends on: 18674
Blocks: revdel
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Reported: 2014-07-20 15:57 UTC by Nathan Larson
Modified: 2014-07-25 12:32 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Nathan Larson 2014-07-20 15:57:27 UTC
Currently, DefaultSettings.php has this commented-out line:

#$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['deleterevision'] = true;

I propose that this be reinstated. If sysops can delete pages, why not individual revisions?
Comment 1 Gerrit Notification Bot 2014-07-21 20:50:24 UTC
Change 148229 had a related patch set uploaded by leucosticte:
Give sysops the deleterevision right by default

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/148229
Comment 2 Vogone 2014-07-22 19:39:45 UTC
If that was done, wouldn't it make sense to add "deletelogentry" as a default right as well? It's a closely related permission which could be added under the same rationale, as far as I can tell.
Comment 3 Nathan Larson 2014-07-22 20:42:14 UTC
(In reply to Vogone from comment #2)
> If that was done, wouldn't it make sense to add "deletelogentry" as a
> default right as well? It's a closely related permission which could be
> added under the same rationale, as far as I can tell.

I'd prefer that it be dealt with as a separate bug. I think that sysops will have more occasion to delete revisions than log entries. Someone could put a lengthy copyright violation in a revision, but copyrighted text in a log entry comment would probably be fair use, given the space constraints.

I think it would be reasonable to give bureaucrats deletelogentry rights, though; that would strike a good balance between transparency and enabling necessary deletions.
Comment 4 Vogone 2014-07-25 12:32:06 UTC
(In reply to Nathan Larson from comment #3)
> (In reply to Vogone from comment #2)
>
> I'd prefer that it be dealt with as a separate bug. I think that sysops will
> have more occasion to delete revisions than log entries. Someone could put a
> lengthy copyright violation in a revision, but copyrighted text in a log
> entry comment would probably be fair use, given the space constraints.

Fair use is US law and doesn't apply to large parts of this world, for example the European Union. As admins currently have the passive right (deletedhistory) anyway, they could also actively hide log entries after bug 18674 is resolved.

> I think it would be reasonable to give bureaucrats deletelogentry rights,
> though; that would strike a good balance between transparency and enabling
> necessary deletions.

I disagree as the bureaucrat group cannot be seen as a superset of the sysop one. And revision deletion is clearly something which only admins should be able to do by default.

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