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Bug 66142 - Implement 'related random' functionality that shows users a random page related to the current page
Implement 'related random' functionality that shows users a random page relat...
Status: NEW
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
1.24rc
All All
: Low enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2014-06-04 21:51 UTC by Jared Zimmerman (WMF)
Modified: 2014-06-20 15:01 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Jared Zimmerman (WMF) 2014-06-04 21:51:59 UTC
Yuvi made a proof of concept for a pseudo random function which results in pages that seem random, but are tangentially related to the current page the user is on. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yuvipanda/lost.js

would be great if we could replace the basic random on site with this pseudo random which is more likely to bring users to random but likely more topically related to what the user is viewing now.
Comment 1 Sam Reed (reedy) 2014-06-05 13:21:48 UTC
Chad has implemented a better Special:Random using CirrusSearch, see bug 65366
Comment 2 Nemo 2014-06-05 13:32:13 UTC
(In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #0)
> would be great if we could replace the basic random on site with this pseudo
> random which is more likely to bring users to random but likely more
> topically related to what the user is viewing now.

I suggest WONTFIX, this is not what users expect from Special:Random (which is already pseudorandom of course, though a bit less now thanks to bug 65366). We make a new Special:RandomRelatedPage though.
Comment 3 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) 2014-06-05 16:56:47 UTC
This would be easy enough to test — "this is not what users expect"
Comment 4 Nemo 2014-06-05 17:07:39 UTC
(In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #3)
> This would be easy enough to test — "this is not what users expect"

How? Until you conduct tests, I know dozens or hundreds of editors who use Special:Random to find unexpected areas (pages) of the wiki in need of tender loving care.
Comment 5 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) 2014-06-05 17:54:38 UTC
How would it be tested?

I'm sure there are plenty of options, but the simplest would be to initially implement "linky random" as a url parameter to Special:Random. Start users on a page that is both of interest to them and one that is not of interest to them and  within 10-20 clicks on random with and without that argument, do the users feel that the the pages shown to them are of interest or not. 

Also to your point about it being used to find pages in need of help, I don't doubt that happens, but its a pretty poor recommendation system, we can do better for that use case. Also it would be totally possible to have one behavior for logged in users and logged out users.
Comment 6 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2014-06-20 14:26:26 UTC
Just a point of note here, the existing random function is pseudo random.

I agree with Nemo here. Well a "randomly related" feature might be cool, I think the use cases for getting a random page are different from getting a sort of related page
Comment 7 Yuvi Panda 2014-06-20 15:01:53 UTC
Edited title to be less controversial, since I think this would be useful feature. I also personally don't think it should replace Special:Random, but that's an argument for another bug.

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