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Bug 53862 - Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar
Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
1.22.0
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Quim Gil
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Depends on:
Blocks: 53887
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Reported: 2013-09-06 20:01 UTC by Quim Gil
Modified: 2013-09-20 22:46 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Quim Gil 2013-09-06 20:01:06 UTC
portal-url ("Community portal"), currentevents-url ("Current events") and helppage ("Help") lead to empty pages in a fresh MediaWiki install, when most projects won't need these pages ever.

Let's save some work to new MediaWiki sysadmins by removing those links.

This is by on my own experience as MediaWiki hobbyist sysadmin. But also:

I went to http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Youngest_websites and I took a couple of samples of about 10 sites in languages that i could understand:

* Most recent
* 1 year old or more

Among the most recent (up to 2 months old) most still had those 3 links, leading to empty pages. The rest had removed 1, 2 or the 3 of them.

Among the 1 year old sample most had modified the Sidebar removing 2-3 of those links and offering sensible, non-empty pages for all options.

Most people setting up a MediaWiki has seen Wikipedia and is probably considering whether to have or not an own community portal or help. I don't think we need to force new MediaWiki sysadmins to have them or learn to remove them from the sidebar - seeing that what happens most of the times is that those pages are in the meantime left empty (bad user experience).
Comment 1 Quim Gil 2013-09-06 20:03:52 UTC
gerrit change Icb0e1b91e40bd682629f8a6f7291dbf8588b586b
Comment 2 Quim Gil 2013-09-06 20:22:49 UTC
And merged. Thank you!
Comment 3 Matthew Flaschen 2013-09-07 02:28:02 UTC
In my opinion, there should be release notes for this.
Comment 4 Nemo 2013-09-07 07:02:33 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> In my opinion, there should be release notes for this.

+1
As nobody uses release notes, probably worth mentioning in [[mw:MediaWiki 1.22]] too. I've updated https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3APage_customizations&diff=777731&oldid=713031 , the page lists some more links to cleanup. If we do enough of them we can write something nicer in [[mw:MediaWiki 1.22]].
Comment 5 Quim Gil 2013-09-09 16:21:33 UTC
CCing mah to decide how this needs to be done. Also when can I update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar
Comment 6 Nemo 2013-09-09 16:24:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Also when can I update
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar

Immediately. Just use {{MW 1.22}} where needed.
Comment 7 paladox2015 2013-09-15 11:29:41 UTC
hi could we bring back the links but turn them off for default and so people if they want them on can easly turn them on
Comment 8 p858snake 2013-09-15 11:32:27 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> hi could we bring back the links but turn them off for default and so people
> if
> they want them on can easly turn them on

Just edit [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]]
Comment 9 Nemo 2013-09-19 19:21:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > hi could we bring back the links but turn them off for default and so people
> > if
> > they want them on can easly turn them on
> 
> Just edit [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]]

And if that sounds hard, bug 16943. :)
Comment 10 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-09-20 22:33:51 UTC
Change 85351 had a related patch set uploaded by Qgil:
Note about removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85351
Comment 11 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-09-20 22:45:04 UTC
Change 85351 merged by jenkins-bot:
Note about removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85351

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