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Bug 52973 - Install GettingStarted on Commons
Install GettingStarted on Commons
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Extension setup (Other open bugs)
wmf-deployment
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: community-consensus-needed
Depends on:
Blocks: commons 61127
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Reported: 2013-08-17 22:12 UTC by Monomium
Modified: 2014-02-10 08:51 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Monomium 2013-08-17 22:12:02 UTC
Why should ENWP get all the fun? Commons should also have Extension:GettingStarted
Comment 1 Dereckson 2013-08-17 22:40:47 UTC
Sure. Please first discuss the matter on Wikimedia Commons. Such requests should be made by the community.

The proposals section of the village pump seems a good place to start:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals
Comment 2 Monomium 2013-08-19 16:40:57 UTC
The idea would be to replace the old landing page that died recently. (See bug 52373)
Comment 3 Sam Reed (reedy) 2013-09-18 18:53:41 UTC
Steven, what's your opinion on doing this? Is it feasible/sensible/whatever?
Comment 4 Matthew Flaschen 2013-09-19 01:00:08 UTC
GettingStarted currently works using category-based tasks.  The three used on English Wikipedia are copy-editing, clarification, and adding wikilinks.  

If we looked at enabling it on Commons, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Backlog would be a starting point in selecting one or more tasks.
Comment 5 Steven Walling 2013-09-20 05:46:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> GettingStarted currently works using category-based tasks.  The three used on
> English Wikipedia are copy-editing, clarification, and adding wikilinks.  

Yes, we'd need to pick categories. 

> If we looked at enabling it on Commons,
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Backlog would be a starting point
> in
> selecting one or more tasks.

That might be one place, but to be honest, we picked the three categories to be sub-types of one overarching goal: give first time Wikipedia editors a very easy article to edit, which we know needs help. 

If we're going to create a new user onboarding process for Commons, we should ask ourselves: what is the easiest, most rewarding, and most helpful thing to do is for a new Commons user?

I'd say that rather than encourage people to pick a backlog task as their first Commons action, we should encourage them to learn how to upload files. Fixing issues in the Commons backlog is really kind of an advanced activity, and everyone who participates in Commons should know how to upload things.

Also, asking users to do one thing is less intimidating than three choices. We're actually testing a new version of GettingStarted,[1] based on this principle. 

I'd suggest that we try to start by creating a simple guided tour explaining uploads. Then we can create a Commons-specific landing page post-registration, that starts off this tour. 

What do folks think? I'm adding Fabrice, since he's starting up the new Multimedia team which has related priorities. 

1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians#Proposed
Comment 6 Steven Walling 2014-02-10 08:15:00 UTC
Just checking on this again...

Jean-Fred asked about this again on the Wikitech Ambassadors list, and I answered him with http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2014-February/000580.html

TL;DR: the extension, which has done away with the Special page approach, is probably even less appropriate for Commons now, because it focuses almost exclusively on editing pages. We may want to resolve this as unfixable, and instead open up a new bug in GuidedTour to create a custom onboarding process for Commons, to teach people how to upload, about copyright/free licenses, etc.

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