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Bug 50007 - Add Translation: namespace to English Wikisource
Add Translation: namespace to English Wikisource
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
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: Normal enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Tomasz W. Kozlowski
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Blocks: Wikisource
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Reported: 2013-06-22 06:48 UTC by billinghurst
Modified: 2013-07-25 07:05 UTC (History)
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Description billinghurst 2013-06-22 06:48:36 UTC
The English Wikisource community wishes to request the creation of a new namespace pair, Translation: and Translation talk:

The discussion
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Requests_for_comment/Annotations_and_derivative_works&oldid=4467826

Some of the technical detail discussion
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=4465292

* Translation: namespace to have subpages, talk pages to default
* Translation namespace will be content namespace (wgContentNamespaces)
* Translation namespace to be added to default sort (wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault)

We wish to use a namespace that may be able to be reserved/stable for use across all the Wikisources, if they replicate what we have done. At the moment I see across the WSes, stuff all the way up to ns 113 in use on other WS ns, so advice on that from the tech community would be appreciated
Comment 1 Tomasz W. Kozlowski 2013-06-22 09:40:27 UTC
Note: the Translate extensions uses this name for its namespace no. 1198.[1]

* [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Configuration
Comment 2 billinghurst 2013-06-22 14:44:31 UTC
I would think that we would probably want to steer clear of that then.  This is for works in other languages than English that have been translated by Wikisourcers into English.
Comment 3 This, that and the other (TTO) 2013-06-23 04:35:15 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Note: the Translate extensions uses this name for its namespace no. 1198.[1]
> 
> * [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Configuration

As far as I can see, this extension actually uses the name "Translations" (note plural). 

I doubt that English Wikisource will ever need that extension anyway, so the risk of confusion is minimal.
Comment 4 Adam Morgan 2013-06-26 13:03:22 UTC
Per [1], Hebrew Wikisource appears to have a translation namespace.  According to [2], it is namespace no. 110.

[1] http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Subdomain_coordination
[2] http://he.wikisource.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces
Comment 5 billinghurst 2013-06-26 13:18:16 UTC
110/111 are used for other purposes on ptWS and itWS, so they are not clear.  Maybe it is a pipedream, though I would like to see some clarity (sanity?) to manage namespaces across WSes.
Comment 6 Erasmo Barresi 2013-06-29 11:06:33 UTC
As far as I know, the Hebrew Wikisource is currently the only one to have such namespace.
Since namespace no. 110/111 are used for other purposes on the Italian and Portuguese Wikisources, my suggestion is to create the namespace at a number that is not used anywhere.
Comment 7 Tomasz W. Kozlowski 2013-07-02 21:57:35 UTC
[Taking the bug, will submit a patch later today (PST).]

I'm gonna go with no. 114 for the new namespace and 115 for the corresponding talk page namespace.
Comment 8 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-03 11:32:59 UTC
Change 71783 had a related patch set uploaded by Odder:
(bug 50007) Add 'Translation' namespace to English Wikisource

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/71783
Comment 9 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-07-04 16:32:33 UTC
Change 71783 merged by jenkins-bot:
(bug 50007) Add 'Translation' namespace to English Wikisource

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/71783

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