Last modified: 2006-06-21 01:24:10 UTC
In some case, we need to put a template just for display the template content as an example, therefore, the page should not be in the same categories as other pages contains the template. For example: template {{delete}} contains information "this page is will be deleted" and [[Category:Pages for deletion]]. If I put the template on article foo_vandal_article. It mean I intend to request the page "foo_vandal_article" for deletion. But if I put the template on article "Wikipedia:Template_list", of course I not intend to request the page "Wikipedia:Template_list" for deletion and therefore "Wikipedia:Template_list" should not have and be categorized into [[Category:Pages for deletion]]. It would be nice if there some tag to supress the category from the template such as : <nocategory>{{delete}}</nocategory>
There is one way to do it:(ex: template {{delete}} at comment #1) 1.Create new template {{delete-base}} contains "this page will be deleted" 2.Modify template {{delete}} contains "{{delete-base}} [[Category:Pages for deletion]]" 3.All vandal articles will use {{delete}} 4.Wikipedia:Template_list will use {{delete-base}} 5.Modification only need to be done at {{delete-base}} / no redundant work here. This will work, but need to create 2 pages for 1 template (I myself dont like it). So I still request this enhancement / new syntax as comment #1
from IRC: Borgx is asking for <nocategory>{{delete}}</nocategory>. This would suppress the transclusion of *all* categories. *note* This is not the same as Bug 706: syntax such that a (template) page can be un-categorized, but still categorise pages transcluding it Bug 706 is about <foo> ... </foo> control inside the template; the actual request is about syntax at the page where the temlate is included. http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Delete lists itself at http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/Category:All_templates However Borgx want to generate http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_templates automatically without manual copying and updating. Best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
You should avoid transcluding a load of pages on a page like that, regardless. Just subst into a table and do periodic updates. Or list plain text: {{[[Template:delete|]]}}
The idea of transcluding the templates into a list page is for making easy of people whenever they want to review it. Plain text like {{[[Template:delete]]}} or en:'s {{tl|delete}} will making it hard because one have to click the template one by one just for seeing it. Loading just the template's codes using {{msgnw}} also making it hard because periodic updates is needed. Can u imagine how to maintain updates when such a list contains 100> templates.
The ability to transclude a load of templates without needing to subst: and periodically update would also be useful to average wiki users, not just maintainers of central lists. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical% 29&oldid=42611056#Suppressing_categories_for_displayed_example_tempates A <nocategory> tag would be perfect.
An ugly workaround is to use conditional syntax. See http://yi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=template:%D7%90%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9F&diff=prev&oldid=24900
Maybe a new magic word could be considered: {{nocat:some template}} would transclude [[template:some template]] but ignore any categories included therein.
A workaround, implemented in some of the Hebrew projects: using a new template named "Template Category" (in Hebrew, [[he:Template:קטגוריה בתבנית]]), which includes (originally used the local [[Template:Qif]], I'm not sure it's the correct syntax for #if): {{#if: {{{NoCategory|}}} | {{{1}}}}} and including the following text for categories: <includeonly>{{Template Category|[[Category:Blah Blah Blah]]|NoCategory={{{NoCategory|}}}}}</includeonly> Then, using the parameter "NoCategory=yes" when calling a template will exclude the category. (It can be used also for Interwiki links, etc.) It is used successfully in the Hebrew projects, however it's just a workaround, and we better use a new magic word.
I raised this issue at #6293 (thanks Borgx for pointing this out). Two other possible solutions I had: * Allow categories to explicitly disclaim certain entries ({{exclude:Wikipedia:Template list}} on category page) * Allow pages to de-categorise. In the example above, [[Remove:Category:Pages for deletion]] on page [[Wikipedia:Template list]]. But <nocat> would be pretty good. Something similar could be done to prevent "what links here" from including links in transcluded pages, when desirable.
I believe this is a duplicate of Bug 835, no?
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 835 ***
