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Bug 36930 - Moved pages appear with the date of initial creation
Moved pages appear with the date of initial creation
Status: PATCH_TO_REVIEW
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
PageCuration (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: High normal (vote)
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Assigned To: Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2012-05-17 11:19 UTC by Oliver Keyes
Modified: 2013-12-21 06:00 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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2012-05-17 11:19 UTC, Oliver Keyes
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Description Oliver Keyes 2012-05-17 11:19:15 UTC
Created attachment 10613 [details]
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pages that are moved from one location to another are listed in Special:NewPagesFeed with the date of creation in the original location. This can be many, many years old and makes the maximum-age feature worthless. It'd be more logical to use the date and timestamp of the move action.
Comment 1 Ryan Kaldari 2012-07-24 22:59:07 UTC
Hmm, I guess we'll need to change the date we're using for ptrp_created in these cases. This is take a bit of work.
Comment 2 Platonides 2012-07-24 23:01:54 UTC
The page itself is not new. Maybe they should simpley not be listed as 'new pages' instead.
Comment 3 Ryan Kaldari 2012-07-24 23:10:26 UTC
Well, they're not new pages, but they're new articles. I'm not sure how to present this in a way that isn't confusing one way or the other. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Comment 4 Platonides 2012-07-24 23:28:34 UTC
Good point. It's hard to say what should be done on those cases.
Comment 5 Ryan Kaldari 2012-08-13 17:37:09 UTC
This would take a lot of effort for a small benefit. Marking wontfix.
Comment 6 Wikifram@gmail.com (Account disabled) 2013-10-17 06:44:32 UTC
It looks as if moved pages aren't shown in the newpages feed anymore at all, not at the creation date and not at the move date. I tried this on en.wikipedia with [[Mathur, Krishnagiri]], which I couldn't find in it. 

The absence of new pages from the new pages feed is a very old and very annoying bug, which has been exploited by paid editors and other problematic editors (see the en-wiki Signpost from 9 october). Pages which get moved from another mainspace to the main namespace should be listed as "new pages" on the date of the move. This is not a "small benefit", this is currently a major loophole which gets exploited by malicious editors to avoid scrutiny.
Comment 7 Andre Klapper 2013-10-17 07:41:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> It looks as if moved pages aren't shown in the newpages feed anymore at all,

This report is about moved pages appearing with the date of initial creation - see bug summary. Moved pages **not appearing at all** obviously is a different problem (and covered in bug 12363). Closing as WONTFIX again.
Comment 8 Ryan Kaldari 2013-10-17 09:49:57 UTC
Actually bug 12363 is specifically for Special:NewPages. If the bug also now exists for Special:NewPagesFeed, that should be opened as a new bug under the PageCuration component. I wonder if something was changed recently. Benny Situ would be the person to ask.
Comment 9 bsitu 2013-10-17 18:31:57 UTC
Nothing was changed in PageCuration recently
Comment 10 Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) 2013-11-08 19:14:00 UTC
Re-opening.

NewPagesFeed is designed for patrolling, not just looking at new pages (that's Special:NewPages).

I don't think this is that difficult, and will submit a patch momentarily.
Comment 11 Gerrit Notification Bot 2013-11-08 19:31:10 UTC
Change 94403 had a related patch set uploaded by Legoktm:
Use timestamp of page move instead of creation date

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94403

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