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Bug 8910 - Aramaic language name incorrect
Aramaic language name incorrect
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2007-02-07 04:28 UTC by Steve Caruso
Modified: 2007-02-17 23:51 UTC (History)
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Description Steve Caruso 2007-02-07 04:28:04 UTC
The Aramaic Wikipedia interwiki link is incorrectly displaying the localized
name for Aramaic (it displays "ܕܥܒܪܸܝܛ" (it's just jibberish) in the "in other
languages" section rather than "ܣܘܪܬ" (Suret) as displayed as the local language
name). This may be the case for other Wikis, too.

Furthermore there are two more problems with the localization:

1) "ܣܘܪܬ" (Suret) is technically incorrect and should be "ܐܪܡܝܐ" (Aramaya) in
all instances as Suret is far too narrow to define the language that the wiki is
written in; which brings me to:

2) The Wiki should be the "Neo-Aramaic Wikipedia" rather than specifically the
"Assyrian Neo-Aramaic Wikipedia" anymore. The Administrator team has been trying
to normalize the language so that most Neo-Aramaic speakers (regardless of
whether or not they speak Assyrian, Chaldean, Turoyo, or Western dialects) would
be able to understand it with relative ease. As such, the Wikipedia's scope has
broadened a bit.

-Steve Caruso
Sysop, Aramaic Wikipedia
Comment 1 John 2007-02-16 02:17:41 UTC
Just to comment for verification since changing names of 
languages can be dangerous if one doesn't know the 
language: the current link, "ܕܥܒܪܸܝܛ", "d'vrit", literally 
saying "in Hebrew" (a different language) spelled 
incorrectly, has been in need of change since the 
creation of the wiki some time ago. As Steve pointed out, 
the correct name should be "ܐܪܡܝܐ", as it appears on Also worth mentioning, the name 
appears as "ܣܘܪܬ" (a specific dialect of the modern 
language) on the List of Wikipedias on WikiMedia. To put 
things in perspective, it's akin to having "English" on, "American English" as the name on List of 
Wikipedias, and "Englow-Saksun" as the interwiki link. 

Sysop, Aramaic Wikipedia
Comment 2 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-02-16 02:34:19 UTC
Changed the name for interwikis/language selection in r19958, should be up
within a few days.  What do you mean when you say ܣܘܪܬ is the "local language name"?
Comment 3 Steve Caruso 2007-02-16 03:48:22 UTC
The "Language (local)" field found on the Meta list .

Also, was the "Assyrian Neo-Aramaic" changed to "Neo-Aramaic" (i.e. the source
for the column in the same list labeled "Language")? I didn't see any other
changes but the Aramaic name in the revision you linked to (which is correct now). 

I also realized that the wikilink that is found in in the same Meta list should
also now point to w:Neo-Aramaic rather than w:Assyrian_Neo-Aramaic (or is that
something that the various templates that I have seen do automatically via the
hard-coded English name?).

-Steve Caruso
Sysop, Aramaic Wikipedia
Comment 4 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-02-17 23:51:54 UTC
The List of Wikipedias is maintained by Mutante, as far as I can tell, certainly
not the developers or sysadmins.  Probably the place to ask for a change is at:

If it turns out this is actually in the site configuration somewhere, please
open a new bug (separate reports for separate issues = better for tracking, even
if they're related).

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