Last modified: 2005-12-12 14:20:08 UTC
Dear friends, with my browser I can not see the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_saga correctly. For reasons not known to me this site is using both (some of) the special characters specific for the Icelandic language ÁáÐðÉéÍíÓóÚúÝýÞþÆæÖö and characters coded as "& # nnn ;". With my browser the characters suposed to be generated with "& # nnn ;" are not displayed properly. This issue cloud be generall for many articles / pages and could be corrected either manualy or with a bot, or with a code correction (if this behavior is a bug). According to me there are some content errors as well (depending if old or new ortography was intended to be used; to my knowledge in old writing additional characters where available too). The article (and maybe similar articles if the change was made by a bot / code change in the past) should be reworked / verified because Fljótsdœla saga Grœnlendinga saga Hœnsa-Þóris saga Laxdœla saga Reykdœla saga ok Víga-Skútu Svarfdœla saga Vatnsdœla saga using all "œ" = HTML "oelig" sould probably use "æ" = HTML "aelig" . Regardless of what solution is chosen I kindly ask you to send me feedback with a recommendion what is allowed / supported /recommended and what not. Regards Reinhardt
Add CC: reinhardt.wiewe@lenauschule.de Thanks!
There seems to be some use of œ and numbered unicode characters outside of the latin-1 range. These characters, written as named or numbered character references, are fine in text on the Latin-1-based English wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org) but do not produce legal links because those characters do not exist in Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1). The page should be cleaned up by editors.
Dear friends, I received feedback from w:en:User:Io on w:en:User_talk:Gangleri . Following his advice I installed Mozilla /5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1 . With Mozilla I could see the characters mentioned wich are old Icelandic characters and looks like a combination of "O" / "o" and "," as this looks like for the French "Ç" / "ç" . The usage of the other "OElig" / "oelig" characters "Œ" / "œ" instead of characters "Æ" / "æ" (used in modern Iceland now for these saga names) in the text is intended by authors (because they refer to original writings). I agree with Brion not to use these characters as articles names / links. Nevertheless there may be still the need to use the [[transliterated_article_name|original_article_name]]. At the moment [[Vǫlsunga saga]] is redirected anyhow to [[Völsunga saga]] using actual (not ancient) Icelandic characters. Additional note: The bug with the use of "#redirect" (all lowercase leters) instead of "#REDIRECT" (all capital leters) wil be reported as a separate bug. I want to point out that because many site visitors are using MS IE these charecters may not be visible with the coding in the article with the actual interpretation / handling by wiki software. Regards Reinhardt
Considering this resolved; everything got converted to UTF-8 and the funky Windows- CP1252 stuff got converted more or less correctly. The given page from the date of filing seems to display ok in IE 6 now.
chanded url using &oldid, changed product, component, etc. This is FIXED as [[en:]] is UTF-8 now. Ǫ and ǫ are rendereding properly [[Vǫlsunga saga]] generates properly [[Vǫlsunga saga]] (page does not exist) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laxd%C5%93la_saga&redirect=no is a redirect [[Ǫrvar-Odds saga]] generates properly [[Ǫrvar-Odds saga]] The database contains some deleted pages (redirects?) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S%C3%87%C2%ABgubrot_af_fornkonungum http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V%C3%87%C2%ABlsunga_saga
