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Bug 4407 - exclude template's categories in certain pages
exclude template's categories in certain pages
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 835
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Templates (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement with 2 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2005-12-28 08:13 UTC by Borgx
Modified: 2006-06-21 01:24 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Description Borgx 2005-12-28 08:13:40 UTC
In some case, we need to put a template just for display the template content as
an example, therefore, the page should not be in the same categories as other
pages contains the template.

For example: template {{delete}} contains information "this page is will be
deleted" and [[Category:Pages for deletion]].

If I put the template on article foo_vandal_article. It mean I intend to request
the page "foo_vandal_article" for deletion. But if I put the template on article
"Wikipedia:Template_list", of course I not intend to request the page
"Wikipedia:Template_list" for deletion and therefore "Wikipedia:Template_list"
should not have and be categorized into [[Category:Pages for deletion]].

It would be nice if there some tag to supress the category from the template
such as :
<nocategory>{{delete}}</nocategory>
Comment 1 Borgx 2005-12-28 09:09:29 UTC
There is one way to do it:(ex: template {{delete}} at comment #1)

1.Create new template {{delete-base}} contains "this page will be deleted"
2.Modify template {{delete}} contains "{{delete-base}} [[Category:Pages for
deletion]]"
3.All vandal articles will use {{delete}}
4.Wikipedia:Template_list will use {{delete-base}}
5.Modification only need to be done at {{delete-base}} / no redundant work here.

This will work, but need to create 2 pages for 1 template (I myself dont like
it). So I still request this enhancement / new syntax as comment #1
Comment 2 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-01-06 16:01:43 UTC
from IRC:

Borgx is asking for <nocategory>{{delete}}</nocategory>. This would suppress the
transclusion of *all* categories.

*note*
This is not the same as
Bug 706: syntax such that a (template) page can be un-categorized, but still
categorise pages transcluding it
Bug 706 is about <foo> ... </foo> control inside the template; the actual
request is about syntax at the page where the temlate is included.

http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Delete
lists itself at
http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/Category:All_templates

However Borgx want to generate
http://wiki.semen3roda.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_templates
automatically without manual copying and updating.

Best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 3 Rob Church 2006-01-06 19:46:22 UTC
You should avoid transcluding a load of pages on a page like that, regardless.
Just subst into a table and do periodic updates. Or list plain text:

{{[[Template:delete|]]}}
Comment 4 Borgx 2006-01-11 05:21:47 UTC
The idea of transcluding the templates into a list page is for making easy of
people whenever they want to review it. Plain text like {{[[Template:delete]]}}
or en:'s {{tl|delete}} will making it hard because one have to click the
template one by one just for seeing it.

Loading just the template's codes using {{msgnw}} also making it hard because
periodic updates is needed. Can u imagine how to maintain updates when such a
list contains 100> templates.
Comment 5 mediazilla 2006-03-07 18:53:28 UTC
The ability to transclude a load of templates without needing to subst: and periodically update would also be useful to 
average wiki users, not just maintainers of central lists. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%
29&oldid=42611056#Suppressing_categories_for_displayed_example_tempates

A <nocategory> tag would be perfect.
Comment 6 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-04-26 11:06:56 UTC
An ugly workaround is to use conditional syntax. See
http://yi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=template:%D7%90%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9F&diff=prev&oldid=24900
Comment 7 Phil Boswell 2006-04-26 11:14:22 UTC
Maybe a new magic word could be considered: {{nocat:some template}} would 
transclude [[template:some template]] but ignore any categories included therein.
Comment 8 Rotem Liss 2006-04-26 13:20:34 UTC
A workaround, implemented in some of the Hebrew projects: using a new template
named "Template Category" (in Hebrew, [[he:Template:קטגוריה בתבנית]]), which
includes (originally used the local [[Template:Qif]], I'm not sure it's the
correct syntax for #if):

{{#if: {{{NoCategory|}}} | {{{1}}}}}

and including the following text for categories:

<includeonly>{{Template Category|[[Category:Blah Blah
Blah]]|NoCategory={{{NoCategory|}}}}}</includeonly>

Then, using the parameter "NoCategory=yes" when calling a template will exclude
the category. (It can be used also for Interwiki links, etc.)

It is used successfully in the Hebrew projects, however it's just a workaround,
and we better use a new magic word.
Comment 9 Steve Bennett 2006-06-15 07:47:43 UTC
I raised this issue at #6293 (thanks Borgx for pointing this out). 

Two other possible solutions I had:
* Allow categories to explicitly disclaim certain entries
({{exclude:Wikipedia:Template list}} on
category page)
* Allow pages to de-categorise. In the example above, [[Remove:Category:Pages
for deletion]] on
page [[Wikipedia:Template list]].

But <nocat> would be pretty good. Something similar could be done to prevent
"what links here" from including links in transcluded pages, when desirable.
Comment 10 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-06-21 01:07:48 UTC
I believe this is a duplicate of Bug 835, no?
Comment 11 Rob Church 2006-06-21 01:24:10 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 835 ***

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