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Bug 3953 - BiDi issues related to the "In other language" section should be fixed in Names.php
BiDi issues related to the "In other language" section should be fixed in Nam...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://yi.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?...
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Depends on:
Blocks: rtl 3671
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Reported: 2005-11-13 18:37 UTC by lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Modified: 2008-04-16 15:24 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Attachments
unified patch for bug 03953 caution: file contains characters coded as &#nnnn; (2.09 KB, patch)
2005-11-22 02:13 UTC, lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Details

Description lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-11-13 18:37:12 UTC
Hallo!

See how the standard BiDi character rendering of your browser handles
thecharacters "(" and ")" in the Language names *Norsk (nynorsk)* and *Norsk
(bokmål)* at
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D9%88_%28%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%A9%29
http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D9%88
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A0%D7%98%D7%95

Please tray the following in *Names.php*:

	'nb' => 'Norsk ‭(‬bokmål‭)‬',		# Norwegian (Bokmal)
	'nn' => 'Norsk ‭(‬nynorsk‭)‬'	,	# Norwegian (Nynorsk)
	'no' => 'Norsk ‭(‬bokmål‭)‬',	# Norwegian

and similar fixes for:
	'za' => '(Cuengh)',		# Zhuang
	'zh' => '中文',	# (ZhÅng Wén) - Chinese
	'zh-cfr' => 'é–©å—語', # Min-nan alias (site is at minnan)
	'zh-cn' => '中文(简体)',	# Simplified
	'zh-hk' => '中文(ç¹é«”)',	# Traditional (Hong Kong)
	'zh-min-nan' => 'Bân-lâm-gú', # Min-nan
	'zh-sg' => '中文(简体)', # Simplified (Singapore)
	'zh-tw' => '中文(ç¹é«”)',	# Traditiona

References:

Unicode Character LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE - U 202D
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/202D/index.htm
and
Unicode Character POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING - U 202C
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/202C/index.htm
and similar BiDi
bug 3922: enhancement: adjust BiDi mess in category list

Please note that if other relevant BiDi characters are included in the actual /
future Name.php as ",", ".", "!", "?", ":" which renders depending of RTL / LTR
these shoud be handeled in a similar way:

if the name has to be written as LTR text the use:
&#8237;<BiDi character>&#8236;
if the name has to be written as RTL text the use:
&#8238;<BiDi character>&#8236;

Thanks in advance for your efforts.

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 2 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-11-22 02:13:02 UTC
Created attachment 1090 [details]
unified patch for bug 03953  caution: file contains characters coded as &amp;#nnnn;

Thanks to Borgx / Stanley for the help.

Please test the patch in an wikifarm both at a LTR and at a RTL wiki.

regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 3 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-11-25 10:39:14 UTC
the line
'ks' => 'कश्मीरी - (كشميري)',	# Kashmiri
should be changed as well to

'ks' => '&#8234;कश्मीरी &#8237;-&#8236; (كشميري)&#8236;',	# Kashmiri

compare with
http://yi.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=project:bugzilla/03953&oldid=6536#Kashmiri_2
Comment 4 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-12-03 16:29:35 UTC
removed "need-review, patch"

Problems about the rendering of the general punctuation characters in various
browsers as Konqueror have been reported.

Please wait with the implementation of this bug until an optimal solution is found.

Testcases are available at [[wiktionary:yi:project:bugzilla/03953]]. If you use
other browsers then testes until now please add a comment about the behavior.
Thanks in advance!
Comment 5 peter green 2005-12-03 16:31:48 UTC
isn't it considered better practice to use html for text direction control on
the web?
Comment 6 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-12-03 16:55:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> isn't it considered better practice to use html for text direction control on
> the web?

Thanks Peter for the question. Please see
Bug 2453: [[Special:Allmessages]] should provide information about the type of
the MediaWiki message

Not all MediaWiki messages are rendering HTML, some eaven do *not* render UTF-8
characters coded in &#nnnn; or &#xnnnn; notation.

Hashar will check what is allowed to be used inside the names at Names.php.
Comment 7 Niklas Laxström 2007-02-28 16:38:08 UTC
Added some hints to the problematic cases for the Bidi algorithm in r20081.
Comment 8 Brion Vibber 2007-03-05 15:43:19 UTC
Manual \xxxx codes seem fragile and ugly here. Might it be nicer to slap these
on programmatically?
Comment 9 Dan Jacobson 2008-04-16 15:24:08 UTC
All I know that I'm using w3m to browse, and see these funny
unprintable LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING U+202A etc. characters on the
Norse link.

$ wwwoffle -o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT |
perl -nlwe '/(>...Norsk.*)</&&print $1' |uni2ascii -wa P
>U+202A Norsk (bokmU+00E5 l)U+202C </a>

The other links on that page have no such extra wrapping characters.

OK, I suppose Norse must have special needs, but it looks weird.

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