Last modified: 2010-10-11 07:05:12 UTC
We have had a discussion on Commons[1] and would like to have [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]] enabled to replace the welcome bots with the following settings): $wgNewUserMessageTemplate = 'Template:Welcome'; $wgNewUserMessageEditor = 'Wikimedia Commons Welcome'; # user that makes the edit $wgNewUserSupressRC = true; # do not add the welcome message edit to RecentChanges $wgNewUserMinorEdit = false; # do not make this a minor edit. The user will get 'the orange bar' [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=11919513#mw:Extension:NewUserMessage
Brion, can you please review this extension?
* All the text ($wgNewUserMessageTemplate, $wgNewUserMessageEditor and $wgNewUserEditSummary) should be customised with messages, not configuration * The username should be reserved * The user account should be created if it doesn't exist, instead of having the users edit their own talk pages, welcoming themselves
Working on it.
All comments from Tim in comment 2 adressed in r38759. New config for Commons would be: $wgNewUserSupressRC = true; # do not add the welcome message edit to RecentChanges $wgNewUserMinorEdit = false; # do not make this a minor edit. The user will get 'the orange bar'
Tim did some more work on the extension, making it work with master/slave configs, and with auto creation of the user making the edit. I added a feature (disabled by default) $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate to also welcome autocreated users (using CentralAuth, for example). Discussion on enabling $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate is in progress[2]. [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#NewUserMessage_.28part_2.29
Need review -> shell
"Autocreated" and all that technical stuff does not appear to be a subject that gets a lot of input. Got 3 users to give feedback. 2 gave positive feedback on enabling $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate, one thought adding welcome messages were great (we know :P). Adding my own vote, I tally 3 support, 1 neutral, 0 negative, so hereby request that "$wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate = true;" also be set[3]. http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=13364751#NewUserMessage_.28part_2.29
For Commons this is a good idea as our welcome message is already oriented towards people who probably have a Wikimedia account elsewhere. So, it's appropriate to welcome literally all users. For lots of other projects, their messages are oriented as the person is a total wiki newbie, and therefore this would not be appropriate.
Why don't you have a different message for autocreation as opposed to manual creation?
Re #9. No reason to have an extra message with the current use cases. New users are new users. Is this a requirement for installation, or is it ready to be installed?
Just saying, if you had an extra message, your welcome message wouldn't need to be oriented towards people with a Wikimedia account elsewhere. You could orient it to them for them, and orient it to newbies when a new account is created.
I understand. As soon as the need would arise, I am sure someone would be able to add the feature in no-time. For now, I'd rather choose to get the extension in production.
Enabled. Enjoy!
