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Bug 14311 - Enable NewUserMessage extension on Wikimedia Commons
Enable NewUserMessage extension on Wikimedia Commons
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
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: Normal enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Siebrand Mazeland
: shell
Depends on: 14124
Blocks: 14400
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Reported: 2008-05-28 14:41 UTC by Siebrand Mazeland
Modified: 2010-10-11 07:05 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Siebrand Mazeland 2008-05-28 14:41:34 UTC
We have had a discussion on Commons[1] and would like to have [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage]] enabled to replace the welcome bots with the following settings):

 $wgNewUserMessageTemplate = 'Template:Welcome';
 $wgNewUserMessageEditor = 'Wikimedia Commons Welcome'; # user that makes the edit
 $wgNewUserSupressRC = true; # do not add the welcome message edit to RecentChanges
 $wgNewUserMinorEdit = false; # do not make this a minor edit. The user will get 'the orange bar'

Comment 1 JeLuF 2008-06-06 19:38:41 UTC

can you please review this extension?
Comment 2 Tim Starling 2008-08-07 08:21:06 UTC
* All the text ($wgNewUserMessageTemplate, $wgNewUserMessageEditor and $wgNewUserEditSummary) should be customised with messages, not configuration
* The username should be reserved
* The user account should be created if it doesn't exist, instead of having the users edit their own talk pages, welcoming themselves
Comment 3 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-07 08:41:08 UTC
Working on it.
Comment 4 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-07 09:43:32 UTC
All comments from Tim in comment 2 adressed in r38759.

New config for Commons would be:
 $wgNewUserSupressRC = true; # do not add the welcome message edit to RecentChanges
 $wgNewUserMinorEdit = false; # do not make this a minor edit. The user will get 'the orange bar'
Comment 5 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-07 13:00:20 UTC
Tim did some more work on the extension, making it work with master/slave configs, and with auto creation of the user making the edit. 

I added a feature (disabled by default) $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate to also welcome autocreated users (using CentralAuth, for example). Discussion on enabling $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate is in progress[2].

Comment 6 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-07 18:49:49 UTC
Need review -> shell
Comment 7 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-08 15:21:56 UTC
"Autocreated" and all that technical stuff does not appear to be a subject that gets a lot of input. Got 3 users to give feedback. 2 gave positive feedback on enabling $wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate, one thought adding welcome messages were great (we know :P).

Adding my own vote, I tally 3 support, 1 neutral, 0 negative, so hereby request that "$wgNewUserMessageOnAutoCreate = true;" also be set[3].
Comment 8 brianna.laugher 2008-08-08 15:27:10 UTC
For Commons this is a good idea as our welcome message is already oriented towards people who probably have a Wikimedia account elsewhere. So, it's appropriate to welcome literally all users.

For lots of other projects, their messages are oriented as the person is a total wiki newbie, and therefore this would not be appropriate.
Comment 9 Tim Starling 2008-08-08 18:33:18 UTC
Why don't you have a different message for autocreation as opposed to manual creation? 
Comment 10 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-08 19:14:53 UTC
Re #9. No reason to have an extra message with the current use cases. New users are new users. Is this a requirement for installation, or is it ready to be installed?
Comment 11 Tim Starling 2008-08-08 19:19:40 UTC
Just saying, if you had an extra message, your welcome message wouldn't need to be oriented towards people with a Wikimedia account elsewhere. You could orient it to them for them, and orient it to newbies when a new account is created. 
Comment 12 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-08 19:22:00 UTC
I understand. As soon as the need would arise, I am sure someone would be able to add the feature in no-time. For now, I'd rather choose to get the extension in production.
Comment 13 Brion Vibber 2008-08-13 03:13:23 UTC
Enabled. Enjoy!

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