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Bug 11222 - History pages to clearly display bot edits
History pages to clearly display bot edits
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Interface (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bu...
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Reported: 2007-09-07 01:26 UTC by とある白い猫
Modified: 2007-09-11 07:06 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description とある白い猫 2007-09-07 01:26:20 UTC
Related to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181

Actually while discussing this idea with Pathoschild something interesting came
about. Why not prod the issue a bit further. The code could add a "bot"
(variable - so that it can be translated to the local language) to the bots
name?

Current history line (from fr.wiki)

16:56, 2 September 2007 Ordinateur (Talk | contribs) m (43 bytes) (Robot :
répare double redirection) (undo)

How it would be:

16:56, 2 September 2007 ([[link to page explaining bots|Robot]])Ordinateur
(Talk | contribs) bm (43 bytes) (Robot : répare double redirection) (undo)
Comment 1 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-09-07 02:35:08 UTC
This is unnecessary complication.  You can just change the bot edit letter phrase to add whatever info you want (maybe without wikitext, but that's a separate request).
Comment 2 とある白い猫 2007-09-07 07:34:25 UTC
I think you mean in the bots edit summary. This request was primarily for interwiki bots. How am I supposed to know the local term for "bot" in 700 wikis? "bot" means nothing to someone who can only read arabic script for example. Furthermore how am I supposed to know if a local community created a bot policy or not? Navigating among tens of thousands of ? to find a spesific page isn't particularly easy.

The idea is giving local wikis some control by giving a link to their local page (if they don't have one bot links to meta). Also the idea is to better inform people new to the project.
Comment 3 Roan Kattouw 2007-09-07 10:36:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> The idea is giving local wikis some control by giving a link to their local
> page (if they don't have one bot links to meta). Also the idea is to better
> inform people new to the project.

They can change MediaWiki:Boteditletter if they want to.
Comment 4 とある白い猫 2007-09-07 16:55:14 UTC
I really want this to be a standard for all wikis. We are talking about the smallest wikis who barely know how to edit. Maybe I haven't expressed why I think this is necessary. Roan Kattouw can we talk about this on IRC or email as I dont want to use this place like a chat room.
Comment 5 Roan Kattouw 2007-09-09 19:30:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> I really want this to be a standard for all wikis. We are talking about the
> smallest wikis who barely know how to edit. Maybe I haven't expressed why I
> think this is necessary. Roan Kattouw can we talk about this on IRC or email as
> I dont want to use this place like a chat room.
> 

I don't really see the need. I agree that the bot flag should show up in history as well as in recent changes (which has been done already AFAIK), but a link explaining what bots are could very well be placed in MediaWiki:Boteditletter.
Comment 6 Platonides 2007-09-09 19:47:08 UTC
I think you mean use the space in the bot name to store the bot flag. Although interesting idea, it breaks when having a bot with a long enough username. So you would need a schema change anyway.
Comment 7 とある白い猫 2007-09-09 23:38:59 UTC
This feature request is dependent to Bug #11181.

I just want a link automatically generated by mediawiki on the individual history lines for bot edits

The example I gave above (copied below) is merely an idea the (link) can be moved anywhere. It could even be a part of the edit summary. The idea is making it a standard despite the bots framework.

An average new user would not know what a bot is so the link would be most useful for that.

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Current history line (from fr.wiki)

16:56, 2 September 2007 Ordinateur (Talk | contribs) m (43 bytes) (Robot :
répare double redirection) (undo)

How it would be:

16:56, 2 September 2007 ([[link to page explaining bots|Robot]])Ordinateur
(Talk | contribs) bm (43 bytes) (Robot : répare double redirection) (undo)
Comment 8 Roan Kattouw 2007-09-10 13:30:41 UTC
I understand what you mean, but I don't see why we would change the MediaWiki code to support this. A sysop can change the MediaWiki:Boteditletter message and turn the 'b' into something more informative, or the bot in question could be altered to include this information in the edit summary.
Comment 9 Brion Vibber 2007-09-10 15:54:13 UTC
*nod*

I'm going to go ahead and nix this one; the planned UI display would be a little 'b' next to the 'm' spot for minor edits, which could be customized on a site if desired.
Comment 10 Roan Kattouw 2007-09-10 15:55:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> *nod*
> 
> I'm going to go ahead and nix this one; the planned UI display would be a
> little 'b' next to the 'm' spot for minor edits, which could be customized on a
> site if desired.
> 

That customization is already available in the MediaWiki:Boteditletter message.
Comment 11 とある白い猫 2007-09-11 07:06:43 UTC
It should link to the meta bot policy page by default. The local community can customize it if they have a local policy. Can [[MediaWiki:Boteditletter]] handle links?

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