Last modified: 2014-06-09 16:50:12 UTC
In the old editor, you could hit ctrl-alt-s to save the page. In the new editor the save action is not reachable using the keyboard. We could just add ctrl-s/cmd-s to the Save button ?
I think taking over ctrl-s/⌘-s which is already used by every browser for a different task (local save of rendered HTML) is a bit rude; I'd suggest just implementing the same keyboard shortcut.
In the old editor, I would simply use TAB to reach the edit summary, type my edit summary and press ENTER to activate the "Save page" button and save. If I wanted to mark the edit minor, then I could type my edit summary, press TAB, SPACE, and then ENTER to "Save page". I can see that the new box for entering an edit summary allows newlines to be entered. I am not sure this is a good idea, because I just used a WSYIWYG editor and now "What I see" - well-formatted paragraphs describing my edit - is not going to be "what I get" - everything smashed on one line in the article history. But that is perhaps grist for another bug mill. It seems that the "Save page" button never receives caret focus if I use TAB to try to get there. This would seem to have accessibility ramifications.
This seems similar to bug 38042. They're not identical but definitely related and they could possibly be usefully fixed at the same time.
(In reply to comment #2) > In the old editor, I would simply use TAB to reach the edit summary, type my > edit summary and press ENTER to activate the "Save page" button and save. If > I wanted to mark the edit minor, then I could type my edit summary, press TAB, > SPACE, and then ENTER to "Save page". Yeah... I split this out to bug 51918.
Having shortcuts for Show preview/Review your changes, and for Save page (two different buttons, so if one shortcut is used for both, VE needs to check whether it is on the main page or in a dialog box), would certainly be helpful. To quote the WMF Deputy Director: "It's worth noting that VisualEditor has its own set of keyboard shortcuts, which can help with common tasks such as linking (which I actually already find faster in VE) ..." And yes, there is also the accessibility issue - anything that can *only* be done by mouse is, by definition, an immovable problem to a physically disabled person who can only use a keyboard.
*** Bug 52745 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 53693 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I don't have any particularly strong views about the right way to do this, but I really want to be able to open the page in VisualEditor, make a small change to the text, and save the page, without ever taking my hands off the keyboard.
Trying to use accesskey=s like action=edit will make this conflict with FlaggedRevs, which doesn't appear on action=edit but does on veaction=edit (with display:none).
Change 110434 had a related patch set uploaded by Alex Monk: Use accesskey=s on the save buttons https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/110434
Change 113319 had a related patch set uploaded by Alex Monk: Add save shortcut to dialog https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113319
Change 113319 abandoned by Esanders: Add save shortcut to dialog Reason: ALT+S is MediaWiki only, abandoning in favour of Idf4fa31b98d1fa9e https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/113319
Change 110434 merged by jenkins-bot: Use accesskey=s on the save buttons https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/110434