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Bug 41826 - Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant
Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Blocks: 27699
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Reported: 2012-11-06 17:12 UTC by Nemo
Modified: 2013-12-26 21:47 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Description Nemo 2012-11-06 17:12:55 UTC
When TimedMediaHandler has been enabled on all wikis, TimedText namespace was also added to all of them.
The rationale is that wikis might want to upload audio or video files locally and add subtitles to them. However, most wikis are not interested in this and indeed it's very seldom a good idea to to do so.
Moreover, this is surely not valid for the wikis which have local upload disabled and won't want this additional interface clutter.
So, what needs doing:
1) Disable the namespace on all wikis with wgEnableUpload false or "'upload' => true" only for sysops in groupOverrides in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
2) (IMHO) Just disable it on all wikis and make it opt-in (except for projects like en.wiki which already expressed interest/used it).
3) Whatever the conclusion, inform all wikis on what the new namespace is and what they can do about it.
Comment 1 Dereckson 2012-11-06 17:24:50 UTC
I agree with Nemo for the opt-in.
Comment 2 Michael Dale 2012-11-06 17:45:23 UTC
see 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32062/

TMH will now not register the namespace if $wgTimedTextNS is false, so this bug is still open, but its a change request for settings $wgTimedTextNS = false in common settings ( and enabling it for en ( 710 ) and commons ( 102 ) and any other wiki that wants to upload video with timed text )
Comment 3 Jan Gerber 2012-11-07 11:34:12 UTC
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32204/ introduces a new setting $wgEnableTimedText, if set to false, local videos have no subtitle menu and no TimedText namespace is registered.

To also disable subtitles on videos from commons one would have to set
 $wgMwEmbedModuleConfig['TimedText.ShowInterface'] = 'off';

As $wgEnableUpload defaults to true I think its not a good value for this.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32205 adds wgmEnableTimedText to InitialiseSettings.php to enable/disable it on a per wiki basis. What wikis should have TimedText enabled now? commons, test, test2 and enwiki seamed save, any others?
Comment 4 db [inactive,noenotif] 2012-11-18 13:32:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> see 
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32062/

Status Merged 

(In reply to comment #3)
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32204/ introduces a new setting

Status Merged 

> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32205 adds wgmEnableTimedText to

Status Merged
Comment 5 Wellington Gomes da Silva Filho 2013-12-26 21:38:49 UTC
In ptwiki, there is a consensus that Timed Text must be enabled (See here: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Cria%C3%A7%C3%A3o_do_dom%C3%ADnio_%22TimedText%22_na_Wikip%C3%A9dia_lus%C3%B3fona_(21nov2013) ). So, in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php, where is 'wmgEnableLocalTimedText' => array(, I beg to include 'ptwiki' => true,.
Comment 6 Nemo 2013-12-26 21:47:28 UTC
Wellington Gomes da Silva Filho, you need to file another report: see [[m:Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes]].

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