Last modified: 2005-12-15 19:48:13 UTC
It would be of benefit to inlcude a box of accents and other special characters on the upload page, similar to that at the bottom of edit pages. I'm not a developer and so quite likely to be wrong about this, but from what I can tell the box on the edit page is produced from the same MediaWiki page that displays the copyright warning. The copyright warning on the upload page is produced from a different MediaWiki page and so the accents box does not appear. Adding it to the upload page below the "all files need to have a free license" box would be simple for any admin to do. However, IMHO at least, it would better to locate it below the description box, like on edit pages. There is currently no MediaWiki page that I can see that adds anything to this part of the page, and so a new one is probably needed - perhaps [[MediaWiki:Char Insert]] or [[MediaWiki:Accent box]]. It would make sense to then put this box on the edit pages as well (to keep the available symbols the same and in the same order) and remove them from the copyright warning box - where they are somewhat of an illiogical fit. See [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Proposal: Special signs in the upload form] for a discussion on this.
I copied special signs to the Mediawiki:Uploadtext page, but wasn't able to insert them in the file description box shown below the message on the Special:Upload page. So we really need help from a developer here. As to the normal edit box (on the edit page), IMO the signs should be located just below the edit box before the buttons (and etc) and especially before the list of all templates used on the page that can be very long sometimes. An example of how we tackled this temporarily is available at [http://sl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedija:Peskovnik&action=edit this page (sandbox)] of Slovenian Wikipedia. I think the available symbols should preferably not be the same for the upload page and the regular edit window, but customizable. For example, the redirect template is not needed to edit the image description but can be very useful as part of the regular window.
You're referring, I think, to the CharInsert extension, which is NOT added via a system message.
(In reply to comment #2) > You're referring, I think, to the CharInsert extension, which is NOT added via a > system message. Yes, I am referring to CharInsert, but I don't understand what you are saying with regards to system messages. On the English Wikipedia and Commons, the CharInsert symbols (e.g. <charinsert> Ĉ ĉ Ĝ ĝ Ĥ ĥ Ĵ ĵ Ŝ ŝ Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ </charinsert>) included on the MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning page, the example above shows that the Slovenian Wikipedia has the CharInsert symbols on the MediaWiki:Summary page. i.e. they are included on the edit page by being part of a system message. What I am asking for is a way of adding a CharInsert section to the special:upload page so that characters like those above can be included in the image description when the image is uploaded rather than requiring an extra edit after the upload. My *guess* at how this might be done is to add a new MediaWiki namespace page to add the CharInsert block, as no current MediaWiki page adds anything where we want it to. I'm not a developer and not familiar with the way MediaWiki works, so this might not work/be possible/be an inferior way of doing it.
That'll teach me to read properly in future.
Created attachment 1118 [details] Work in progress Adds MediaWiki:Edittools which can contain eg charinsert stuff; will appear beneath both edit box and the upload form. Modifies behavior of JS so that charinsert will work on forms other than the main edit form (uses first available textarea). Rearranges bits on edit page a bit. Currently live on test.leuksman.com, try it out.
*** Bug 4121 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Thanks Brion for http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools both http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=test_foo_bar&action=edit&uselang=en and http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=test_foo_bar&action=edit&uselang=de preserve the message. Is this just because this message is not defined for 'de'? uselang=he does not use the Hebrew interface at http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=test_foo_bar&action=edit&uselang=he best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Created attachment 1123 [details] Patch as committed to CVS HEAD
Created attachment 1185 [details] Patch for MediaWiki:copyrightwarning2 -- for wikis supporting the CharInsert extension. Patch delivers the whole zoo of accented characters mostly needed in the western languages encoded as UTF-8
Comment on attachment 1185 [details] Patch for MediaWiki:copyrightwarning2 -- for wikis supporting the CharInsert extension. Patch delivers the whole zoo of accented characters mostly needed in the western languages encoded as UTF-8 This patch is bogus -- it doesn't do anything useful, is contrary to how this bug is already solved, and will cause the wiki to include useless junk by default. Please don't attach bogus patches on unrelated bug reports like this.
