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Bug 14599 - Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource and Wikiquote
Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource and Wik...
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
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Reported: 2008-06-20 14:21 UTC by Gondnok
Modified: 2008-07-06 19:22 UTC (History)
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Description Gondnok 2008-06-20 14:21:24 UTC
On the Hungarian Wikinews the project talk pages are created to the main namespace. The local project name is Wikihírek, the talk page should be in Wikihírek_vita namespace. This error makes the discussion of guidelines and policies very hard, as we can't use the talk pages.

Additionally we don't have Portal namespace enabled. Although the community is still very small in the future they will be probably needed.
Comment 1 Bence Damokos 2008-06-20 17:19:42 UTC
A Portal namespace should be enabled, called "Portál" its discussion page "Portálvita", as there are already pages in this (pseudo)namespace.
Comment 2 Bence Damokos 2008-06-22 17:05:36 UTC
The problem that the "discussion" tab of pages in the Project namespace lead to a page in the main namespace is apparent on the Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource, Wikiquote. 
In other words addresses in the form of "Project talk:" are treated as being in the main namespace, and it is not correctly recognised whether a page in the Project namespace has a talk page. This is probably an error stemming from the renaming of the Project talk namespaces.
Comment 3 Brion Vibber 2008-07-05 00:32:44 UTC
The namespace name was specified with a " " in a place where spaces should be encoded as "_", leading to bad internal matches. This is now fixed.

However, it looks like it may be incorrectly specified in the first place.

I see several different formats in use here:

* Szerkesztővita
* Wikihírek vita
* Képvita
* MediaWiki-vita
* Sablonvita
* Segítségvita
* Kategóriavita

What's the correct form to use here? Should it be changed to something else?
Comment 4 Gondnok 2008-07-05 04:23:24 UTC
"Wikihírek vita" should be "Wikihírek-vita", based on the full list of Hungarian namespaces is in bug 11488:
Comment 5 Bence Damokos 2008-07-05 12:30:50 UTC
The grammar is complex,  talk pages are compound nouns and in most cases should be written as one word (hence Kategóriavita, Segítségvita, Sablonvita, Képvita, Szerkesztővita), however if one part of the compound is a proper noun (as in MediaWiki, and the name of the project Wikihírek, etc.) then the second part has to be joined with a hyphen (thus Wikihírek-vita, MediaWiki-vita).

The form with the space is grammatically incorrect, but as the situation is quite complex, aliases from the different forms (e.g. the one with a space) should be kept.

Comment 6 Brion Vibber 2008-07-06 19:22:05 UTC
Ok, I've set it to the '-' form and kept '_' (space) as an alias.

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