Last modified: 2011-01-25 01:37:13 UTC
I am checkuser on fr: wikipedia. In some cases, a request for checkuser is done
after a vandal's edit have been deleted (as they should be in some cases, i.e.,
for privacy issues or defamation). Deleted vandal edits prevent me from knowing
their usual vandalism pattern, since I am not sysop. This is annoying as it
prevents me from recognizing some "active" vandals. Several checkusers are not
sysops on fr: wikipedia. What would be therefore needed would be to grant to
checkusers access to deleted edits, without any other sysop's rights.
Changing to site configuration issue.
Why aren't the checkuser's sysops?
Consensus is needed for this. Please start a discussion on frwiki to get
agreement for this and link to the result.
Voice of All: Because they're two different tasks, and people are not always
interested in maintenance, hence in sysop tools. Alain is a member of the frwp
ArbCom, so he's trusted, but he's not a sysop (and doesn't want to be, AFAIK).
I'm a bit surprised by the summary change - AFAICS, granting "delete"
permissions to CU would allow them to delete pages, which should stay a
sysop-only right. CU should only be able to *see* deleted edits. Unfortunately,
I don't think there is a specific permission for that (deletedhistory only
allows seeing the history entries, not the revs). Could this be clarified before
a discussion is started?
That is a maintenance task, hence sysop. Being sysop does not require that one
fight every single vandal.
May deserve further discussion for read-only access to stuff. (Might require a
little coding per above notes about permissions not being wide enough to allow
viewing details without actual delete priv.)
What about access to the new Special:Deletedcontributions?
They wouldn't be able to see the individual edits (because they're not sysops and can't open the deleted pages), but they could at least see *what* pages were being edited.
'deletedhistory' lets users browse sp:deletedcontributions