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Bug 9637 - SVG symbol for nonexistent image in gallery is confusing
SVG symbol for nonexistent image in gallery is confusing
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
File management (Other open bugs)
1.10.x
All All
: Normal enhancement with 2 votes (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index....
: easy
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2007-04-20 03:57 UTC by brianna.laugher
Modified: 2007-04-26 00:58 UTC (History)
0 users

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description brianna.laugher 2007-04-20 03:57:53 UTC
If we have

<gallery>
Image:this doesnt exist.svg
Image:this doesnt exist.png
Image:this doesnt exist.jpg
Image:this doesnt exist.gif
</gallery>

and none of the four files exist, the SVG will appear as
http://commons.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/icons/fileicon-svg.png
(some weird blob shape)

and all the others will appear as 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/icons/fileicon.png
(a blank white rectangle).

The SVG gallery image should be changed to the blank white rectangle, same as
the other images.

thanks.
Comment 1 Larry Pieniazek 2007-04-20 13:16:25 UTC
Alternatively all of the missing images could be made spiffier if so desired.
But there is a feeling that the current "weird blob shape" (which to me looks
like a shape with control handles on it to adjust the curvature and so forth as
you would do in Inkscape) is more confusing than it is evocative of SVG.
Comment 2 Dr. Schorsch 2007-04-20 14:58:04 UTC
Larry, I dissagree with you. The images shown in place of a missing/deleted
image shold not look like anything meaningfull, but make clear that this is what
it is, a missing image. Showing a blank image like for PNG and JPG is the
easiest solution and is the minimum solution for SVG.
A better solution would be to show a broken link, like with images outside a
gallery, or something else that can transport this message.
XorX
Comment 3 Larry Pieniazek 2007-04-20 17:47:10 UTC
 making something "spiffier" has to still convey that the image is "missing".
Which the current svg image does not do. Perhaps if it was broken, or a red X
were on top of it, or whatever, as you say. But just using a blank white
rectangle might well be the very easiest to do, and would be an improvement over
what is there now, as Brianna points out. So I don't think we are disagreeing,
necessarily. 
Comment 4 Brion Vibber 2007-04-25 19:37:02 UTC
There just doesn't happen to be a specific icon for PNG, GIF, or JPEG at the
moment, so they get the generic icon.
Comment 5 Dr. Schorsch 2007-04-25 20:18:26 UTC
Sorry Brion Vibber, but that is maybe not a solution for the problem. As I understand it, to achieve 
the minimum solution for wikimedia commons (blank icons for missing SVG files) this would mean 
to remove the generic icon for SVG files. Has this to be done in the software or is it a configuration 
thing that can be done by a commons-administrator?
Comment 6 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2007-04-26 00:58:35 UTC
It can only be changed by a developer or sysadmin.  Maybe the filename could be
added to messages so they're changeable by sysops to any uploaded image (check
that it's protected, though . . .).  Or just use magic filenames.

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