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Bug 8792 - Update for Portuguese (Brazil) language (pt-br)
Update for Portuguese (Brazil) language (pt-br)
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
1.9.x
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2007-01-27 13:12 UTC by J Bruni
Modified: 2010-05-15 15:48 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Attachments
Portuguese (Brazil) language messages (111.41 KB, text/plain)
2007-01-27 13:18 UTC, J Bruni
Details

Description J Bruni 2007-01-27 13:12:19 UTC
Revised existing translation (there were several errors)

comment:
I just installed MediaWiki for the first time, and I became aware of the poor status of 
our Brazilian translation (although it is actually the eighth biggest wikipedia!)
I just corrected the existing file in the package.
It should be replaced for new one (as of MessagesEn.php) and totally rebuild, but at the 
same time preserving the translations already made.
Thank you.
Comment 1 J Bruni 2007-01-27 13:18:21 UTC
Created attachment 3146 [details]
Portuguese (Brazil) language messages

The new version for MessagesPt.php
Comment 2 Niklas Laxström 2007-01-27 14:03:22 UTC
Now I don't understand. The file you attached is just an old version of
portuguese file (MessagesPt.php). The file in the url is copy of Brazilian
Portuguese (LanguagePt_br.php) with some changes, of which most of them would
have no effect because the messages were not uncommented.
Comment 3 J Bruni 2007-01-27 14:21:24 UTC
As it was the first time I used "bugzilla" I didn´t know I was 
going to be able to upload an attachment in the next screen 
after I post the bug.

I was following the instructions in 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_localisation, and it 
was not mentioned... I decided to use meta.wikimedia itself 
to "upload" the new file content (exactly the same content of 
the attachment)... Only after I did it, I informed the URL (I 
found that URL doing a search in bugzilla) and clicked to post 
the bug.

I will erase it, as it is really horrible. (I should have done 
it already!)

Now, about the attachment: I simply donwloaded WikiMedia 
yesterday (v. 1.9.1), unzipped it, and it was there 
(MessagesPt.php)! I simply revised wrong portuguese 
translations, adjust some vocabulary, and make the translation 
of some strings that were left in english. And only that. 
Absolutely nothing more. The comments were already there, and I 
didn´t change it.

Thank you for you comment, which helps to improve the whole 
thing... I apologize for my inexperience here at bugzilla...
Comment 4 Rob Church 2007-01-27 20:43:07 UTC
First of all, please provide all updates against the current trunk of the
software, from Subversion, rather than a released version. Second, the issue
Niklas mentions is that you claim to be updating for Brazilian Portuguese, but
edited the wrong language file altogether.
Comment 5 J Bruni 2007-01-27 23:06:55 UTC
Thank you, guys. I´m sorry. Forgive me. I was a little upset because the file 
MessagesPt_br.php from the package I downloaded and installed seemed to me a mess.
I recognize the effort of our fellow translators - we´re all in a hurry, isn´t it?
I just changed the wrong words and was searching "where do I upload this"? It was a 
little difficult to find... AND, when uploading, I clicked in the wrong file (Pt 
instead of Pt_br)!

Now, with your help, let´s start again.
I´ll be learning to do it the right way.
I just downloaded file "MessagesPt_br.php" from 
http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/
It says "Revision 19675", and I´ll start working on it. Is it the correct one?

There are two questions:

1 - There is a line (#10) which content is:
$fallback ='pt';
What does it mean? I think it means that for not-found elements in "pt-br" (Brazil) 
messages array, the ones in "pt" (Portugal) will be used then. Is it correct?

2 - I took a look in some other languages Message*.php files, and verified that there 
are a lot more elements in their messages array then the one in the pt-br file. Why? 
Even though we have a fallback, the differences are many - it is very obvious for us 
when the text is Pt and not Pt_br (although it is understandable for everybody, which 
is a good thing). But, we should not be lazy and stay hanging on this inconsistent 
fallback.

Tell me what you think about what I am thinking:
1 - To get MessagesEn.php and MessagesPt.php as references,
2 - Maintain and correct MessagePt_br current translations,
3 - Translate the others, not-translated ones.
4 - Format the whole file "well-formed", as MessageEn.php / MessagePt.php
5 - In fact, the job will be carefully "mix" MessageEn, MessagePt and MessagePt_br, 
getting all array keys from the first, translations from the second (differences in 
terms from Portugal and Brazil are many, but I should use them as a basis), and the 
already done good job from the third.
(Obs.: As I work as a webmaster and know some PHP, I feel comfortable with 
the "strange characters" surrounding the texts.)

I hope to be putting the confusion from the begining away, and follow right path with 
your advice.

I´ll wait your comments to know what is ok and what is not.

Thanks!
Comment 6 Rob Church 2007-01-28 13:49:53 UTC
That sounds fine. Small mistakes can be corrected quite easily by the committer
before they actually apply the patch.
Comment 7 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2007-05-20 12:22:18 UTC
There is no update yet, marking bug as LATER. Reopen it when there is
a patch :)
Comment 8 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-10-20 23:46:50 UTC
INVALID as the attached file is not an update per comment 7. Please review and fix any remaining issues on http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=reviewall&group=core&language=pt-br&limit=2500.

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