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Bug 7680 - Netscape 8.1.2 crashes when rendering under Windows XP
Netscape 8.1.2 crashes when rendering under Windows XP
Product: MediaWiki extensions
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
PC Windows XP
: Lowest normal with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
: 8291 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
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Reported: 2006-10-24 15:02 UTC by Daniel U. Thibault
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:05 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Description Daniel U. Thibault 2006-10-24 15:02:39 UTC
Netscape 8.1.2 crashes (just quits completely and suddenly, without triggering error 
reporting) when I try to access my own discussion page. Rendering mode is Firefox (Gecko); 
if I try to switch to IE (Trident), I can't even get to the Main page: Netscape remains 
busy but the window isn't redrawn. Using IE, I can get to the page but the Wikipedia logo 
in the top left has suspicious black areas in it, and the edit boxes seem to lose the 
cursor until I alt-tab to some other application and back.

The problem is some interplay with the OS, because the same browser under Windows 2k (on a 
different machine) doesn't crash or exhibit any other suspicious symptoms. Note that my 
english user page doesn't suffer from this bug (nor do my wiktionary user pages, etc.). Has 
there been some recent change in the fr.wikipedia wiki media version? How do I go about 
pinpointing what's wrong with the machine I'm using to write this?
Comment 1 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-10-24 21:19:30 UTC
The MediaWiki version used by [[Wikimedia]] sites is always recently changed,
every few hours to every few days.  Try using different browsers and post the
exact versions of each of those and of your OS.
Comment 2 Brion Vibber 2006-10-25 08:38:18 UTC
Well, you can try reporting the bug to Netscape but there's maybe not a lot of hope. :)

The page looks ok here in Safari; don't have Windows to test with at present.
Comment 3 Daniel U. Thibault 2006-10-26 03:21:07 UTC
Considering the weird behaviour on IE's part (IE's edit boxes also require tabbing instead of 
clicking --truly bizarre), and the fact the problem is confined to the one machine, I'm 
pretty sure by now this isn't really wiki's fault at all. I'll try and keep you posted of 
what we find out.
Comment 4 Roberto Frangi 2006-11-10 19:08:43 UTC
I'm using Netscape 8.1.2 running on WindowsXP SP2. I noticed the same problem
few days ago on and Starting from today November 10th, the same
thing happens accessing (and up to yesterday it was running fine). Since
my system configuration has not changed overnight, I think something has changed
in the mediawiki that runs it.wikipedia.
Comment 5 Roberto Frangi 2006-11-10 19:17:39 UTC
In particular, Netscape crashes when I access the "recent changes" on

On and it happened also while accessing normal articles.
Comment 6 Roberto Frangi 2006-11-10 19:22:31 UTC
Or accessing the "related changes" of some pages like
Comment 7 Jan R. Ziebart 2006-11-29 17:17:25 UTC
I have the same Problem. Accessing mainpage on and Contact Page are no 
Problem, but all normal articles cause instant crash. 
I have updated IE to IE7 lately, is anyone surveying the same Problem with an "old" IE 
as rendering Engine for Netscape?
Comment 8 Daniel U. Thibault 2006-12-05 13:05:40 UTC
In my case IE7 was not installed yet. Accessing any fr.wikipedia page causes N8 to quit 
suddenly. en.wikipedia, the en and fr wiktionaries and wikibooks, and wikimedia commons and 
meta are all fine. It's just fr.wikipedia for me.
Comment 9 Jan R. Ziebart 2006-12-06 17:31:49 UTC
I have returned from Netscape 8.1.2 to 8.0 Canadian and it works fine now. 
Comment 10 Jan R. Ziebart 2006-12-13 10:54:22 UTC
After getting annoyed with the old Canadian Version, I searched the Online
Community- Boards at Netscape. Our Problem is already known in the Netscape
Unofficial FAQ. Right now I am working with the Netscape 8.1.2 Browser WITHOUT crashes - as I have disabled javascript for the Site.

Maybe this Thread may help you :

I simply opened the Mainpage (which was always possible) and right-klicked on
the Tab on Top. I chose "Show Site Controls" and disabled Javascript.

I really would like to know if it works for anyone else.
Comment 11 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2006-12-14 18:47:33 UTC
Closing as invalid since it s a regression in Netscape 8.1.2.
Disabling javascript in the browser seems to fix the "issue" :)
Comment 12 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-12-14 19:44:28 UTC
That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround.  Users
consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good.
Comment 13 Rob Church 2006-12-14 21:07:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround.  Users
> consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good.

Agreed for this case, assuming that we remove the workaround when the bug is
fixed upstream and has been fixed in release versions for a while.
Comment 14 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-12-17 19:02:41 UTC
*** Bug 8291 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Helmut Ernst 2006-12-17 20:19:12 UTC
It is true that non-allowing java script on the wikipedia site solves the bug.
Question: May wikipedia become at times dysfunctional because java script has
been suspended?
Comment 16 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-12-17 20:55:52 UTC
No.  You won't get some extra features, and it may look slightly different, but
it should degrade gracefully.
Comment 17 opbeith 2007-01-23 12:41:48 UTC
Jan, I use Netscape 8.1.2 with WindowsXP SP2. I get the same problem of a crash
when I access de.wikipedia.  I've unenabled Javascript for de.wikipedia but that
hasn't helped
Comment 18 Siebrand Mazeland 2008-08-11 16:34:56 UTC
Netscape is End of Life per Closing this issue as WONTFIX.

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