Last modified: 2011-03-13 18:05:29 UTC
Netscape 8.1.2 crashes (just quits completely and suddenly, without triggering error reporting) when I try to access my own discussion page. Rendering mode is Firefox (Gecko); if I try to switch to IE (Trident), I can't even get to the Main page: Netscape remains busy but the window isn't redrawn. Using IE, I can get to the page but the Wikipedia logo in the top left has suspicious black areas in it, and the edit boxes seem to lose the cursor until I alt-tab to some other application and back. The problem is some interplay with the OS, because the same browser under Windows 2k (on a different machine) doesn't crash or exhibit any other suspicious symptoms. Note that my english user page doesn't suffer from this bug (nor do my wiktionary user pages, etc.). Has there been some recent change in the fr.wikipedia wiki media version? How do I go about pinpointing what's wrong with the machine I'm using to write this?
The MediaWiki version used by [[Wikimedia]] sites is always recently changed, every few hours to every few days. Try using different browsers and post the exact versions of each of those and of your OS.
Well, you can try reporting the bug to Netscape but there's maybe not a lot of hope. :) The page looks ok here in Safari; don't have Windows to test with at present.
Considering the weird behaviour on IE's part (IE's edit boxes also require tabbing instead of clicking --truly bizarre), and the fact the problem is confined to the one machine, I'm pretty sure by now this isn't really wiki's fault at all. I'll try and keep you posted of what we find out.
I'm using Netscape 8.1.2 running on WindowsXP SP2. I noticed the same problem few days ago on de.wiki and fr.wiki. Starting from today November 10th, the same thing happens accessing it.wiki (and up to yesterday it was running fine). Since my system configuration has not changed overnight, I think something has changed in the mediawiki that runs it.wikipedia.
In particular, Netscape crashes when I access the "recent changes" on it.wiki On de.wiki and fr.wiki it happened also while accessing normal articles.
Or accessing the "related changes" of some pages like http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Recentchangeslinked/Italia
I have the same Problem. Accessing mainpage on de.wiki and Contact Page are no Problem, but all normal articles cause instant crash. I have updated IE to IE7 lately, is anyone surveying the same Problem with an "old" IE as rendering Engine for Netscape?
In my case IE7 was not installed yet. Accessing any fr.wikipedia page causes N8 to quit suddenly. en.wikipedia, the en and fr wiktionaries and wikibooks, and wikimedia commons and meta are all fine. It's just fr.wikipedia for me.
I have returned from Netscape 8.1.2 to 8.0 Canadian and it works fine now.
After getting annoyed with the old Canadian Version, I searched the Online Community- Boards at Netscape. Our Problem is already known in the Netscape Unofficial FAQ. Right now I am working with the Netscape 8.1.2 Browser WITHOUT Wikipedia.de crashes - as I have disabled javascript for the Wikipedia.de Site. Maybe this Thread may help you : http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=6088.1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser I simply opened the Mainpage (which was always possible) and right-klicked on the Tab on Top. I chose "Show Site Controls" and disabled Javascript. I really would like to know if it works for anyone else.
Closing as invalid since it s a regression in Netscape 8.1.2. Disabling javascript in the browser seems to fix the "issue" :)
That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround. Users consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good.
(In reply to comment #12) > That it's their fault doesn't mean we shouldn't institute a workaround. Users > consistently crashing when they log on to a MediaWiki install is not good. Agreed for this case, assuming that we remove the workaround when the bug is fixed upstream and has been fixed in release versions for a while.
*** Bug 8291 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
It is true that non-allowing java script on the wikipedia site solves the bug. Question: May wikipedia become at times dysfunctional because java script has been suspended?
No. You won't get some extra features, and it may look slightly different, but it should degrade gracefully.
Jan, I use Netscape 8.1.2 with WindowsXP SP2. I get the same problem of a crash when I access de.wikipedia. I've unenabled Javascript for de.wikipedia but that hasn't helped
Netscape is End of Life per http://browser.netscape.com/. Closing this issue as WONTFIX.
