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Bug 7633 - New Concept for Signing Talk Pages
New Concept for Signing Talk Pages
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Page editing (Other open bugs)
All All
: Lowest enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
Depends on:
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Reported: 2006-10-19 17:00 UTC by Jamie Hari
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:05 UTC (History)
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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Description Jamie Hari 2006-10-19 17:00:27 UTC
Hey Brion, et al:

I am personally getting tired of using the {{Unsigned|User Joe}} template just
to keep talk conversations straight.

I have devised a solution to save users from having to sign posts manually:

1. Remove the "~~~~" style signatures from MediaWiki altogether. (to prevent
duplicate signatures)
2. Upon submission of an edit, perform a check to make sure user is editing a
talk page. (not an article)
 a. IF user is editing a talk page AND user is anonymous, AUTO-APPEND a full
signature (IP Address, time, date, etc)
 b. IF user is editing a talk page AND user is logged-in, see step 3.
3. Add a new saved user-preference, which allows the user to choose a signature
format for every talk page contribution. This signature choice will be
AUTO-APPENDED to the end of every talk page submission.
(Formats: i.e. Name Only, Name + Time, Name + Time + Date, "Custom") (where
Custom allows the user to change colours, etc as they do today.)

I believe this solution covers pretty much all of the bases, so no (or very
little) functionality or personalization is lost. It also saves a few
button-click/key strokes for every talk page edit. Furthermore, from an
administration side of things, we always get to see who is saying which nasty
things about us, without hunting...

I could see it being only a teeny-tiny increase in submission time, but this
won't affect read-only activities at all.

Comment 1 Rotem Liss 2006-10-19 17:11:10 UTC
Several problems of the suggested solution:
1. Many replies are not done in the end of the talk page, but below the reply
they want to answer to. I don't know how should MediaWiki know where to add the
2. What about users who post several replies?
3. What about users who edit the talk page to organise the page, e.g. split
sections, move discussions?
4. What about signatures in the Village Pump? (It's a minor problem, as such
pages may be defined as talk pages.)

Therefore, suggesting WONTFIX.
Comment 2 Brion Vibber 2006-10-19 17:28:49 UTC
WONTFIXing as above.

In the context of talk pages as we have them today, the suggestion doesn't make any 
sense because there's no context for the software.

What you want would be better served by a more targetted discussion system, such as 
LiquidThreads which is under development.
Comment 3 Jamie Hari 2006-10-19 23:57:11 UTC
Rotem Liss:

I didn't think of those points. Very good. :)
Certainly I have thoughts to hand some of them, including a checkbox which could
override the auto-append.


LiquidThreads is probably what I am looking for since I think the discussion
system needs a complete overhaul. I will wait for that.

Thanks guys. :)

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