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Bug 7006 - Colours in the mediawiki Allmessages page
Colours in the mediawiki Allmessages page
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Special pages (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal minor with 3 votes (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:...
: accessibility
Depends on: 16497
Blocks: css
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Reported: 2006-08-14 11:16 UTC by Kris De Gussem
Modified: 2009-08-10 00:35 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

See Also:
Web browser: ---
Mobile Platform: ---
Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Attachments
screenshot of Special:Allmessages with yellow (31.57 KB, image/png)
2006-08-14 19:51 UTC, Dan Li
Details
Screenshot of Special:Allmessages with blue (17.37 KB, image/png)
2006-08-14 20:23 UTC, Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly)
Details
patch for main.css for Special:Allmessages color (blue) (338 bytes, patch)
2006-08-14 22:34 UTC, Dan Li
Details

Description Kris De Gussem 2006-08-14 11:16:33 UTC
When using colours in pages, red and green shouldn't be used on the same page as
about 8 percent of the people can not distinguish these colours. A better colour
as a substitute for green (new or current message) is yellow: #FF9; , which is
highly contrasting in comparison with both red and green. Although this can be
fixed using the users monobook.css, it is better to fix it as standard.
Comment 1 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-08-14 16:35:39 UTC
Blue would also work.
Comment 2 Dan Li 2006-08-14 19:51:16 UTC
Created attachment 2224 [details]
screenshot of Special:Allmessages with yellow

Looks fine with #ff9, I think.
Comment 3 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-08-14 19:54:03 UTC
The problem with yellow is that it's sort of confusing to contrast it with red;
it's usually used as a middle ground between green and red.  Blue doesn't have
that kind of connotation.

If you do use yellow, though, don't use #ff9, use something more pastel (to
match the red).
Comment 4 Dan Li 2006-08-14 20:05:59 UTC
What kind of blue? Keep in mind the table header is blue as well.
Comment 5 Aryeh Gregor (not reading bugmail, please e-mail directly) 2006-08-14 20:23:55 UTC
Created attachment 2225 [details]
Screenshot of Special:Allmessages with blue

The red and green are #ffe2e2 and #e2ffe2 respectively, so #e2e2ff would be
logical.
Comment 6 Dan Li 2006-08-14 22:34:20 UTC
Created attachment 2226 [details]
patch for main.css for Special:Allmessages color (blue)

OK. I don't really like yellow anyways. ;)

The diff fixes /skins/monobook/main.css, but the site seems to be running on
http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css. Does that mean it's using
v1.5 of monobook?
Comment 7 Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung] 2006-08-16 00:52:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Created an attachment (id=2225) [edit]
> Screenshot of Special:Allmessages with blue
> 
> The red and green are #ffe2e2 and #e2ffe2 respectively, so #e2e2ff would be
> logical.

While I like blue, this combination makes me shudder. Too reminiscing of
Wikipedia boilerplates :(
Comment 8 Kris De Gussem 2006-08-21 08:16:45 UTC
Although both colours (blue and yellow) are perfectly capable, the preferred
colour is a personal issue too. I prefer, however, yellow, because it has a
higher contrast and seems to work better on LCD-screens: colour difference 
between the red and yellow is always high and does not depend on the vertical
viewing-angle (which is not the case if blue is used).
Comment 9 Rob Church 2006-08-30 08:20:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> The diff fixes /skins/monobook/main.css, but the site seems to be running on
> http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css. Does that mean it's using
> v1.5 of monobook?

No.

Comment 10 Chad H. 2009-07-27 23:46:53 UTC
The default color these days seems to be green and yellow. Is this a problem?
Comment 11 Niklas Laxström 2009-07-28 09:11:16 UTC
FWIW I don't see any colours at twn atm.
Comment 12 René Kijewski 2009-07-28 10:53:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> FWIW I don't see any colours at twn atm.
> 

If you would not abbreviate every second word, maybe I could read it.
Comment 13 Niklas Laxström 2009-07-28 10:57:13 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> If you would not abbreviate every second word, maybe I could read it.

For what it is worth, I don't see any colours at translatewiki.net at the moment. Will you fix it now?
Comment 14 Annabel 2009-07-28 16:44:41 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> The default color these days seems to be green and yellow. Is this a problem?

Where do you see this? As far as I can see it is still red and green.
Did you change your monobook.css yourself?
Anyhow, green and yellow is a nice colour palet for colour blind people.
Comment 15 Chad H. 2009-07-28 16:56:03 UTC
No, I didn't change mine. I was just severely confused for about 5 minutes.
Comment 16 Chad H. 2009-08-10 00:35:32 UTC
Default colors are yellow & green. I just checked again myself (also fixed some broken IDs in r54692, might've been cause of confusion above). Any red/blue customizations would be because of enwiki or elsewhere.

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