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Bug 5941 - uselang=foo should reference to existing pages in the content language in a single language content wiki
uselang=foo should reference to existing pages in the content language in a s...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/s...
:
: 10703 (view as bug list)
Depends on: 5946
Blocks:
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Reported: 2006-05-14 03:35 UTC by lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Modified: 2007-11-14 15:04 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 03:35:12 UTC
Hallo!

Please do not thing at multilanguage wikies as commons and meta: now.

This report relates to installations where the content is in one language only
and where uselang=foo should preserve the links to the pages where the content
is available.

To ilustrate the problem compare
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=en
with
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=fi
the url from above
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=fr
or use any other language.

The link to the page defined via [[MediaWiki:Administrators]] should be handeled
in the same way as [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] and the other items from the
[[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] are handeled:
* the url does *not* change*
* the requested rendering could be described as
[[{{int:Administrators}}|{{int:Administrators/foo}}]]

See also
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/category:MediaWiki/content_titles?uselang=en
about a list of MediaWiki messages "pointing" to pages in the content language /
messages that should be handeled as such (but are not).

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 1 Rob Church 2006-05-14 04:04:45 UTC
The specific case this bug reports is fixed in SVN trunk, r14214. The others
need looking into.
Comment 2 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 11:19:13 UTC
Thanks Rob!

Another red content link is / might be [[IP Address]] at
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=user_talk:12.13.14.15&uselang=en

Not shure How [[MediaWiki:Ipaddress]] can be used as a "link" to a page in the
content language.
Comment 3 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 12:00:26 UTC
Two more:

b)
editing a nonexisting page
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=Betawiki:Sandbox/page_does_not_exist&action=edit&uselang=en
see
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/MediaWiki_talk:Newarticletext?uselang=en
where
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/project:Help
is used

c) you need to have sysop rights:
deleting a page
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Newarticletext/en&action=delete
see
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/MediaWiki_talk:Confirmdeletetext?uselang=en
where
http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/project:Policy
is used

As a general rule I would say that all [[Foo]] links which do neither link to
namespace special, user, (also image, category) and all {{int:foo}} inclusions
should point to identical pages when uselang=bar is used / when the user
interface is changed to another language.

This includes in particular:
all refereences to pages as [[{{ns:Project}}:Foo]], [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo]].

*note*
Please note that upper case pagenames are prefered in order to have identical
titles also at wikies where $wgCapitalLinks=false; (first character in titles
can be lower case). If a reference erquires lower cases pipe syntax should be used.

example message syntax: "You find [[{{ns:Project}}:Help|help]] ..."

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 4 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 12:12:58 UTC
PS.

As already suggested *all* standard Mediawiki messages from Messages containing
[[{{ns:Project}}:Foo|translation]] / [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo|translation]] wikiliks or
[{{fullurl:{{ns:Project}}:Foo|prarameters]}} text] /
[{{fullurl:{{ns:Help}}:Foo|prarameters]}} text] type references should be
handeled as

[[{{int:URL type message}}|translation]] / [{{fullurl:{{int:URL type
message}}|prarameters]}} text]
Where {{int:URL type message}} is *always* using the content language.

Some of these "URL type message" exist already but might not be refered
consitently others need to be added to Message.php.
Comment 5 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 12:45:45 UTC
*note*

Sorry to post this here:
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=fi
differs from
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=en
regarding the rendering of
[[{{int:Aboutsite}}]]

The first url shows {{int:Aboutsite}} in Finnish, the seccond shows
{{int:Aboutsite}} in English.

----

Would be happy to have a magic word as requested at
Bug 2085: request for a variable USERIFCODE (user interface language code)
in order to link always to {{int:Aboutsite/{{USERIFCODE}}}}

There is another issue about using /fi at a Finnish wiki (in general using
/{{USERIFCODE}} at a wiki in {{USERIFCODE}} language. It would *not* work.

See that {{int:Aboutsite/fi}}} does *neither* render at
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutpage&uselang=fi
*nor* at
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutpage&uselang=en

Please open another reports if you want to split the topics. Thanks in advance!
Comment 6 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 13:18:21 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)

> Would be happy to have a magic word as requested at
> Bug 2085: request for a variable USERIFCODE (user interface language code)
> in order to link always to {{int:Aboutsite/{{USERIFCODE}}}}

This was the *wrong* reference. I did want to reference at:
Bug 5945: Variable {{CONTENTLANG}} (content language code)
Comment 7 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 13:45:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> *note*
> 
> Sorry to post this here:
> http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=fi
> differs from
> http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=en
> regarding the rendering of
> [[{{int:Aboutsite}}]]
> 
> The first url shows {{int:Aboutsite}} in Finnish, the seccond shows
> {{int:Aboutsite}} in English.

The behaviour of {{inf:Foo}} when [[MediaWiki:Foo/bar]] exists *beside*
[[MediaWiki:Foo]] might be *intended*.

*but* if 
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Currentevents-url/en
does *not* exist {{int:Currentevents-url/en}} would render to the same
"destination" / "title" / "page".

see identical rendering at
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Currentevents-url&uselang=en
and
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Currentevents-url&uselang=fi
Comment 8 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-05-14 13:48:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)

> This includes in particular:
> all refereences to pages as [[{{ns:Project}}:Foo]], [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo]].

This sshould apply also for [[{{ns:Template}}:Foo]] see
[[MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage]].
Comment 9 Niklas Laxström 2007-11-14 14:55:55 UTC
Translations are getting better regarding these links, I see no reason to keep this bug open.
Comment 10 Niklas Laxström 2007-11-14 15:04:13 UTC
*** Bug 10703 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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