Last modified: 2007-11-14 15:04:13 UTC
Hallo! Please do not thing at multilanguage wikies as commons and meta: now. This report relates to installations where the content is in one language only and where uselang=foo should preserve the links to the pages where the content is available. To ilustrate the problem compare http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=en with http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=fi the url from above http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/special:Statistics?uselang=fr or use any other language. The link to the page defined via [[MediaWiki:Administrators]] should be handeled in the same way as [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] and the other items from the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] are handeled: * the url does *not* change* * the requested rendering could be described as [[{{int:Administrators}}|{{int:Administrators/foo}}]] See also http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/category:MediaWiki/content_titles?uselang=en about a list of MediaWiki messages "pointing" to pages in the content language / messages that should be handeled as such (but are not). best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
The specific case this bug reports is fixed in SVN trunk, r14214. The others need looking into.
Thanks Rob! Another red content link is / might be [[IP Address]] at http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=user_talk:12.13.14.15&uselang=en Not shure How [[MediaWiki:Ipaddress]] can be used as a "link" to a page in the content language.
Two more: b) editing a nonexisting page http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=Betawiki:Sandbox/page_does_not_exist&action=edit&uselang=en see http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/MediaWiki_talk:Newarticletext?uselang=en where http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/project:Help is used c) you need to have sysop rights: deleting a page http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Newarticletext/en&action=delete see http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/MediaWiki_talk:Confirmdeletetext?uselang=en where http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/project:Policy is used As a general rule I would say that all [[Foo]] links which do neither link to namespace special, user, (also image, category) and all {{int:foo}} inclusions should point to identical pages when uselang=bar is used / when the user interface is changed to another language. This includes in particular: all refereences to pages as [[{{ns:Project}}:Foo]], [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo]]. *note* Please note that upper case pagenames are prefered in order to have identical titles also at wikies where $wgCapitalLinks=false; (first character in titles can be lower case). If a reference erquires lower cases pipe syntax should be used. example message syntax: "You find [[{{ns:Project}}:Help|help]] ..." best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
PS. As already suggested *all* standard Mediawiki messages from Messages containing [[{{ns:Project}}:Foo|translation]] / [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo|translation]] wikiliks or [{{fullurl:{{ns:Project}}:Foo|prarameters]}} text] / [{{fullurl:{{ns:Help}}:Foo|prarameters]}} text] type references should be handeled as [[{{int:URL type message}}|translation]] / [{{fullurl:{{int:URL type message}}|prarameters]}} text] Where {{int:URL type message}} is *always* using the content language. Some of these "URL type message" exist already but might not be refered consitently others need to be added to Message.php.
*note* Sorry to post this here: http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=fi differs from http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=en regarding the rendering of [[{{int:Aboutsite}}]] The first url shows {{int:Aboutsite}} in Finnish, the seccond shows {{int:Aboutsite}} in English. ---- Would be happy to have a magic word as requested at Bug 2085: request for a variable USERIFCODE (user interface language code) in order to link always to {{int:Aboutsite/{{USERIFCODE}}}} There is another issue about using /fi at a Finnish wiki (in general using /{{USERIFCODE}} at a wiki in {{USERIFCODE}} language. It would *not* work. See that {{int:Aboutsite/fi}}} does *neither* render at http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutpage&uselang=fi *nor* at http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutpage&uselang=en Please open another reports if you want to split the topics. Thanks in advance!
(In reply to comment #5) > Would be happy to have a magic word as requested at > Bug 2085: request for a variable USERIFCODE (user interface language code) > in order to link always to {{int:Aboutsite/{{USERIFCODE}}}} This was the *wrong* reference. I did want to reference at: Bug 5945: Variable {{CONTENTLANG}} (content language code)
(In reply to comment #5) > *note* > > Sorry to post this here: > http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=fi > differs from > http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Aboutsite&uselang=en > regarding the rendering of > [[{{int:Aboutsite}}]] > > The first url shows {{int:Aboutsite}} in Finnish, the seccond shows > {{int:Aboutsite}} in English. The behaviour of {{inf:Foo}} when [[MediaWiki:Foo/bar]] exists *beside* [[MediaWiki:Foo]] might be *intended*. *but* if http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Currentevents-url/en does *not* exist {{int:Currentevents-url/en}} would render to the same "destination" / "title" / "page". see identical rendering at http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Currentevents-url&uselang=en and http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Currentevents-url&uselang=fi
(In reply to comment #3) > This includes in particular: > all refereences to pages as [[{{ns:Project}}:Foo]], [[{{ns:Help}}:Foo]]. This sshould apply also for [[{{ns:Template}}:Foo]] see [[MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage]].
Translations are getting better regarding these links, I see no reason to keep this bug open.
*** Bug 10703 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
