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Bug 509 - Multiple namespaces confuses some users.
Multiple namespaces confuses some users.
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Lowest enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2004-09-17 12:09 UTC by Tietew
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:06 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

See Also:
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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Tietew 2004-09-17 12:09:51 UTC
When page title contains multiple namespaces such as [[Talk:Image:Foobar.jpg]],
the page have a link to [[Image:Foobar.jpg]] named "content page".
But correct talk page is [[Image_talk:Foobar.jpg]].

This behavior will confuse some users.
Comment 1 JeLuF 2004-09-21 06:13:59 UTC
Also add
* [[Image:Talk:Foobar.jpg]]
* [[Foobar.jpg:Talk:Image]] for RTL
* [[Image/Talk/Foobar.jpg]], [[Talk/Image/Foobar.jpg]] and 
  [[Image_Talk/Foobar.jpg]] for Unix users
* [[Image\Talk\Foobar.jpg]], [[Talk\Image\Foobar.jpg]] and 
  [[Image_Talk\Foobar.jpg]] for Windows users

This is confusing? Yes. Adding variants for the same thing does not
make things less confusing. I would wonder whether 
[[Talk:Image:Foobar.jpg]] and [[Image_talk:Foobar.jpg]] are really
the same thing when encountering them for the first few times.
Comment 2 Aaron Peterson 2004-09-21 06:40:15 UTC
namespaces really confuse me... I thought that was what disambiguation pages and categories were for... 
 
All that I'm finding namespaces to do for me are: cause me to practice typing extra... 
 
and cause me to split content into clean sounding categories.. that aren't  really that clean... and end up making me do a 
lot of typing. 
 
 
 
I do see how they can limit the searching,... but that could be made to work with categories 
Comment 3 JeLuF 2004-09-21 06:47:57 UTC
Different namespaces have different semantics. Compare an
Image: page, a Special: page, a Talk: page and an article
page. They have different buttons, different functionality.

Only Wikipedia: isn't that different from an article, but
it is a different thing, too: It's not an encyclopedia
article, but text about how we are working, policies,
discussion. Whether this could be done using categories?
Probably. But performance is something different.
Comment 4 Domas Mituzas 2005-05-14 14:05:12 UTC
JeLuF made a perfect comment on that. And I'm good at WONTFIX'ing :)
Comment 5 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-06 10:16:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> When page title contains multiple namespaces such as [[Talk:Image:Foobar.jpg]],
> the page have a link to [[Image:Foobar.jpg]] named "content page".
> But correct talk page is [[Image_talk:Foobar.jpg]].
> 
> This behavior will confuse some users.

I agree that behavior is not the same as experienced in "day to day live".

Note that [[Talk:Talk:Talk:Talk:Foo]] generates a link also. Clicking on the
article tab will open a page in the *talk* namespace. See also
[[Talk:Help_talk:Talk:]].

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*Multiple namespaces* and a space instead of "_" in a namespace name was the
reason for
bug 2075: Basic functionality broken at ta.wikipedia

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