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Bug 4946 - msgnw outputs text within noinclude tags
msgnw outputs text within noinclude tags
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Templates (Other open bugs)
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Reported: 2006-02-10 06:20 UTC by Hermeneus
Modified: 2006-04-02 23:20 UTC (History)
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Description Hermeneus 2006-02-10 06:20:56 UTC
msgnw outputs source text within noinclude tags and without onlyinclude tags
when it shouldn't (subst doesn't). This could be annoying when the template page
has categories, interwiki links, and a little text on how to use itself in
noinclude tags. You don't want to show the list of categories and the rest on a
page that introduces various templates, for example.
Comment 1 Brion Vibber 2006-02-10 06:22:35 UTC
Isn't this exactly what a tool to display raw message source is supposed to do?
Comment 2 Hermeneus 2006-02-10 06:30:09 UTC
noinclude tags are supposed to hide a certain portion of source text. noinclude
tags should override msgnw in cases like this in my opinion. 
Comment 3 Brion Vibber 2006-02-10 06:31:54 UTC
noinclude tags are supposed to hide things on *include*. msgnw exists to show the
*raw* source. (For that matter it's obsolete, as Special:Allmessages now exists.)
Comment 4 Hermeneus 2006-02-10 06:40:54 UTC
Then is there any way to show only the source code of the template itself like
subst does?
Comment 5 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2006-02-10 19:30:39 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> ... (For that matter it's obsolete, as Special:Allmessages now exists.)

{{msgnw:}} is of great help. As far as I know it is the only way to preserve /
escape &entity; &#nnnn; &#xnnnn; characters. See

{{msgnw:}} is very important for documentation. It can be used for guidance / to
give some hints at wikies where users do not have priviledges to edit pages. It
can be used "trace" templates and variables in templates.

Documentation should not hide <foo> </foo>, <bar />, <foobar parameter /> etc. I
(re-)discovered today some messages with opening <p> but without closing </p>
(bug 2369) at some wikies.

I would suggest to find another solution for the problem addressed by Hermeneus
and not brake actual behaviour. I am aware only of a few open issues: bug 4913,
bug 4951. It is and should remain a great "tool".

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]

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