Last modified: 2006-02-22 22:55:41 UTC
hu.wikipedia block log: "2006. január 24., 15:00 Grin "User:195.56.80.234" blokkolva 3 nap lejárattal (User:IGe zoknibab)" (= ip blocked with 3 days expiration) The block now (25th january) is not in the blocklist, and I see no reason for that. No unblock sign in the block log (and it is not probable that anyone unblocked it anyway). This is a major problem, and should not happen. Other problem is that blocklog is pretty inaccurate. It should log **EVERY** block creation and every block removal either by sysops, stewards, god, spambots, and internal mediawiki events. Right now there are "misterious" blocks appearing (done by stewards, devels, spambot, ...) without a trace and usually disappear just that way. This is bad, and log should list every change. (Naturally this problem closely relates to the problem above, since we just cannot follow not what happens and by whom.)
The block was _probably_ expired after 24h [guessing from the activity of the vandal]. Reason unknown.
(In reply to comment #0) > Right now there are "misterious" blocks appearing (done by stewards, devels, spambot, ...) without a trace and usually> disappear just that way. * Stewards can't set a block without first sysopping themselves on the target wiki, and then performing the block as normal. * The developers don't dish out blocks that often, and when it does happen, I believe it's preferred to do it through the interface to avoid making mistakes. * A spam bot doesn't have sufficient permissions to set a block. I think the text above was, thus, an exaggeration.
Dear Rob, the list was an example (and a guess!), please do not take it as an offense or a blame, as it was not indended as such. WHATEVER the source of the mysterious blocks (which were done by persons as well as the system [whatever the "system" may be], but I cannot tell who or what since they are not logged anywhere, they just "appear" in the blockiplist and "disappear" afterwards) they are hidden from the blocking log, their setting as well as their removal. Apart from that the problem of this bugreport was a very specific one, namely a block which was disappeared with no reason.
It seems autoblocks remove valid blocks, then expire after 24h, thus removing even an infinite block. Since this render longer-than-24h blocks useless, raising prio. PLEASE CHECK, somebody. THanks.
(In reply to comment #4) > It seems autoblocks remove valid blocks, then expire after 24h, thus removing > even an infinite block. Since this render longer-than-24h blocks useless, > raising prio. PLEASE CHECK, somebody. THanks. Let's have some proof of that, please?
(In reply to comment #5) > Let's have some proof of that, please? Please kindly point out which information do you need apart from the informations in the description [initial comment], which intended to include all known informations related to this problem? Please try not to request informations which I do not possess: I do not have root access to wikimedia servers.
(In reply to comment #6) You make the unsubstantiated claim that autoblocks are removing valid blocks, which isn't coded for; then expire removing that block. The auto expiration is possible; the removal of the first block shouldn't be. We need to see examples of this happening; full test cases, e.g. "on XXwiki, user Joe blocked user Fred for 36 hours, and another user was autoblocked as a result; this overrode the block on Fred causing it to expire" etc. Without examples, and evidence, we *cannot* be expected to process this bug report.
