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Bug 4269 - Suggestion: Tools for defeating meatpuppet/sockpuppetry by registered users
Suggestion: Tools for defeating meatpuppet/sockpuppetry by registered users
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Interface (Other open bugs)
All All
: Lowest enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
Depends on:
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Reported: 2005-12-14 06:14 UTC by Susan Larson
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:06 UTC (History)
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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Description Susan Larson 2005-12-14 06:14:33 UTC
Currently a user can register and use as many user accounts as they want provided they can get one 
email address per account which is very easy. As such Votes for deletion are often attacked with 
individuals pretending to be multiple users. With unregistered users you can see the ip address of 
the poster and figure out if it is likely a valid vote or not. What is needed is a similar feature 
for registered signed-in users. I suspect several keep votes on [[Wikipedia:Articles for 
deletion/Bum Wine Wednesday]] are from the same user(s). The user(s) are staging an active campaign 
in an attempt to keep his Bum wine Wednesday page which has properly in my opinin been nominated 
for deletion. So some method of viewing the ip address of a register user either though an ip 
<nowiki>[[User_IP:SusanLarson]]</nowiki> (history page of ip's used to login the wikipedia) or a 
signature ip address block for all registered users. 

[[|]] ([[user:|]]) in addition to 
whatever custom signature is used.
Comment 1 Susan Larson 2005-12-14 06:15:39 UTC
remove nowiki tags from above please thanks :)
Comment 2 Rob Church 2005-12-14 13:33:36 UTC
Users don't even need email addresses to register accounts. And viewing IP
addresses and throwing out that kind of information is going to produce some
interesting privacy issues, particularly for the Wikimedia Foundation, as
evidenced by the recent CheckUser debate on En.
Comment 3 Susan Larson 2005-12-14 22:44:14 UTC
You can have this only enabled if a user participates in votes. I suspect that this goes on extensively for 
all votes including RfA, AfD, and so on. Do not the security, policy, and other important issues this affects 
warrant a means to check for this kind of activity. With this going on a small group or even a single 
individual could overcome the majority which goes against the principle the Wikipedia operates on.
Comment 4 Rob Church 2005-12-14 22:46:17 UTC
Interestingly, however, "majority" or "voting" are not principles Wikipedias
operate on; they use "consensus" which is something rather different.
Comment 5 Susan Larson 2005-12-14 23:40:10 UTC
I agree about operating on consensus.  However consensus can be diluted or even totally skewed by people or 
persons who are pretending to be muitple people supporting one point of view. My main concern is the effect on 
on official wikipedia votes and policy discussions nothing else.
Comment 6 Brion Vibber 2005-12-15 19:51:47 UTC
IP addresses for logged-in users are considered sensitive, private information,
and access to the IP records is restricted.

Look for the 'CheckUser' lookup requests if there's something specific you want
to have checked on Wikipedia and with good reason.

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