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Bug 28757 - reorganize Bugzilla so that opening Vector bugs would be easier
reorganize Bugzilla so that opening Vector bugs would be easier
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Bugzilla (Other open bugs)
unspecified
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: Unprioritized normal (vote)
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Assigned To: Priyanka Dhanda
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Reported: 2011-04-30 11:30 UTC by Amir E. Aharoni
Modified: 2011-05-01 12:07 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Amir E. Aharoni 2011-04-30 11:30:52 UTC
I don't completely understand how should i open Vector-related bugs.

When Vector was new, bug reporters were asked to open the bugs under Vector skin or Usability initiative.

Now Vector is over a year old and completely integrated into Wikimedia sites. I can understand the technical rationale for asking people to report Vector bugs under a Vector component - it is easier to assign bugs this way, yet it would be easier for the reporters to just report them under MediaWiki. Internally the Insert link and Search and replace dialogs are not parts of MediaWiki, but de-facto they are. Can anyone please reorganize WikiMedia Bugzilla to reflect this?

Thank you.
Comment 1 p858snake 2011-04-30 11:33:23 UTC
De-facto they are? no they aren't, they are still the extension, They should still be filed the same way as people were told, either under the skin or Usability Initiative (or whatever its precise name is under the extension section).
Comment 2 Amir E. Aharoni 2011-04-30 11:49:58 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> De-facto they are? no they aren't, they are still the extension

Yes, they are. They are a part of the extension internally and i know this because i was involved in the beta testing of that extension, which was over more than a year ago. New users who want to report bugs are confused by this, because to them all these features appear to be a central part of the site and not an extension. It's time to make reporting easier for them.

If a user who isn't familiar with the extension structure wants to report a bug in the Insert link dialog or in the editing toolbar, he would go to Enter a new bug -> "MediaWiki: The wiki software itself -- most issues about how the wiki works should go here.". Then he would search for a "toolbar" or a "replace editor" component, wouldn't find it, and would file the bug under "Page editing" or under "General/Unknown".
Comment 3 Chad H. 2011-04-30 12:00:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > De-facto they are? no they aren't, they are still the extension
> 
> Yes, they are. They are a part of the extension internally and i know this
> because i was involved in the beta testing of that extension, which was over
> more than a year ago.
>

No, they aren't. They're still an extension until somebody actually decides to merge the features to core, if that will ever happen (/me glares at a few people).

> New users who want to report bugs are confused by this,
> because to them all these features appear to be a central part of the site and
> not an extension. It's time to make reporting easier for them.
> 

The same argument could be made for ParserFunctions, or Cite, or any other feature Wikimedia has deployed to their site. I really don't think it's *that* big of a deal, unless you can point to a cornucopia of bugs that have been misfiled for this.

People misfile bugs all the time, and BZ regulars quickly move them to the correct place.
Comment 4 Sam Reed (reedy) 2011-04-30 13:34:40 UTC
Indeed, there is still the Vector Skin (core) and the Vector "extension" (some prettyfication etc)

Seems a null point, as they will get triaged and moved as necessary
Comment 5 Amir E. Aharoni 2011-04-30 13:42:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Seems a null point, as they will get triaged and moved as necessary

Reorganization may save the time that is wasted on triaging and moving.
Comment 6 Chad H. 2011-04-30 17:20:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Reorganization may save the time that is wasted on triaging and moving.

All incoming bugs get triaged anyway, it's no big deal.
Comment 7 Krinkle 2011-05-01 12:07:15 UTC
Bugs related to the Vector enhancement extension (which is enabled on all Wikimedia sites, but not part of the MediaWiki software), can be filed pretty simple, not more complicated than any other bug:


* enter new bug > MediaWiki > Vector Skin
* enter new bug > MediaWiki extensions > Vector
* enter new bug > MediaWiki extensions > WikiEditor

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