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Bug 2760 - Clarify the "use external editor" preference
Clarify the "use external editor" preference
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Page editing (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low normal with 2 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://www.wikipedia.org
:
: 3286 4475 4671 4802 5765 7171 7828 8637 8709 8991 16881 26716 29255 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: 40346
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Reported: 2005-07-08 18:01 UTC by Benjamin Nelson
Modified: 2013-04-11 16:16 UTC (History)
17 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Benjamin Nelson 2005-07-08 18:01:05 UTC
Cannot edit whole pages using the tab at the top of the page. Whenever I try,
the browser attempts to download the file "index.php". I can, however, edit
individual sections in the body of any wiki perfectly well. The result is that I
cannot edit the introductory blurb of any wiki.

This happens both when using IE and Mozilla.
Comment 1 richard.serjeantson 2005-10-01 08:17:34 UTC
I have exactly the same problem.
Comment 2 richard.serjeantson 2005-10-01 08:25:11 UTC
It seems to have been have been fixed by de-checking "Use External Editor by
default" in the "Editing" Preferences tab. I got this advice from Sturat. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&diff=24002876&oldid=24002666
Comment 3 Zigger 2006-01-04 14:58:16 UTC
*** Bug 4475 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Zigger 2006-01-04 15:00:56 UTC
*** Bug 3286 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Brion Vibber 2006-01-19 20:19:22 UTC
*** Bug 4671 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Rob Church 2006-01-30 21:52:59 UTC
*** Bug 4802 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Rob Church 2006-08-30 07:29:46 UTC
*** Bug 5765 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Rob Church 2006-08-30 07:30:28 UTC
*** Bug 7171 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Rob Church 2006-11-08 04:28:43 UTC
*** Bug 7828 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Rob Church 2007-01-15 05:04:38 UTC
*** Bug 8637 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Rob Church 2007-01-19 21:14:41 UTC
*** Bug 8709 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Raimond Spekking 2007-02-15 10:44:56 UTC
*** Bug 8991 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Tim Starling 2009-02-18 06:40:35 UTC
*** Bug 16881 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2011-01-20 01:09:04 UTC
*** Bug 26716 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2011-01-20 01:13:45 UTC
re-opening this.

I think the preference should perhaps be removed, or at least statistics gathered on how popular it is. See discussion on Bug 26716 and Bug 7092

*The external editor feature doesn't need this pref to work, can be replaced by a bookmarklet (and the instructions say that approach may even be more practical)
*Does anyone use it? (Stats would be nice)
*If accidentally selected, totally breaks editing, without any clear indication as to what is going on.

Thus i think we should seriously consider removing it (or even hiding by default, although having a hidden by default pref seems stupid).
Comment 16 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2011-01-20 01:29:46 UTC
^demon was kind enough to get some stats for this. For en wikipedia, 12158 have the external edit preference set, and 10878 have the externaldiff preference set. This includes both active and inactive users.
Comment 17 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2011-01-20 02:05:48 UTC
before i forget, related to this, i committed r80608 which adds a help link to those preferences so people can figure out what they do, and r80610 which adds a comment to the ini file that this option causes people to download explaining whats going on. (However, its mime type is not that of a text file, so users probably won't see the comment, but it might help some people figure out whats going on).
Comment 18 Niklas Laxström 2011-01-20 08:17:44 UTC
Can someone run query on some big wiki to see how many users have this option set?
Comment 19 jason brown 2011-01-20 09:24:57 UTC
Great to see the user figures, thanks ^demon!

Either there are a lot of tech-heads on Wikipedia or a lot of dummies like me who clicked the option without fully understanding what it is was for or the impact it'd have on editing.

Or a bit of both. Either way, also great to see this issue being discussed and part way resolved.
Comment 20 Mark A. Hershberger 2011-01-21 18:18:55 UTC
updated summary
Comment 21 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) 2011-06-12 03:03:24 UTC
*** Bug 29255 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22 Chad H. 2013-04-11 16:16:39 UTC
Not doing this since external editor/external diff were removed in Ic3791d18.

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