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Bug 27006 - Investigate ways to make wikimediafoundation.org more open
Investigate ways to make wikimediafoundation.org more open
Status: REOPENED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Low enhancement with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liber...
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Reported: 2011-01-28 03:52 UTC by MZMcBride
Modified: 2014-08-05 15:13 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Description MZMcBride 2011-01-28 03:52:41 UTC
Currently wikimediafoundation.org is a fishbowl wiki, meaning only certain users can make changes while all pages are visible. It would be nice if this wiki could allow feedback on the site (perhaps on the talk namespaces) or even have something like FlaggedRevs implemented so that users could change pages with moderation.

The biggest current obstacle to opening editing is that raw HTML is enabled on this wiki. However, even with this obstacle, it's important that such a prominent wiki organization allow outsiders to contribute to its foundation site in the same way that they can contribute to other projects such as Wikipedia.
Comment 1 MZMcBride 2011-01-28 03:59:58 UTC
<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-January/063620.html> provides further discussion and justification for making wikimediafoundation.org more open.
Comment 2 Jan Kucera (Kozuch) 2011-01-28 09:23:33 UTC
The Foundation's web presence has multiple issues:
1) www.wikimedia.org is a really dummy place now - should be changed into an interactive hub streaming content from all Wikimedia projects (including Foundation)
2) wikimediafoundation.org shoudl move to foundation.wikimedia.org
3) open up the Foundation's wiki
Comment 4 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2013-02-01 13:40:21 UTC
MZ is there any progress on this ?  Is it worth keeping this bug here or can we simply close it? thx!
Comment 5 MZMcBride 2013-02-01 13:59:29 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> MZ is there any progress on this ?  Is it worth keeping this bug here or can
> we simply close it? thx!

Well, lack of progress isn't ever a good reason to close a legitimate bug. ;-)

Check out <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Legoktm/Liberation> and bug 44473, which is probably a dependency or blocker of this bug. I guess this bug should become a tracking bug or something.
Comment 6 Nemo 2013-08-22 21:13:13 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > MZ is there any progress on this ?  Is it worth keeping this bug here or can
> > we simply close it? thx!
> 
> Well, lack of progress isn't ever a good reason to close a legitimate bug.
> ;-)

I think this is now clearly a wontfix. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/66043/
Comment 7 SJ 2014-03-13 02:00:00 UTC
The bug here remains unfixed: Both leaving and finding discussions about pages on the WMF wiki is broken. It's not clear how to leave comments; comments get sent to a different site; it's hard to track them as they are left and archived in a way that often doesn't match the original page.

I know of no reason not to fix this, though it may be a low priority.
This bug report wasn't framed as a specific feature request, so here is one:  

Please allow visitors to leave comments directly in the Talk namespace on the wmfwiki, so that discussion threads are clearly linked from the page in question, and conversely so that one can find all past discussion threads about that page. 

Ideas noted on Legoktm's page may be related but not necessary for this.
Comment 8 Andre Klapper 2014-03-14 11:16:13 UTC
(In reply to SJ from comment #7)
> Please allow visitors to leave comments directly in the Talk namespace on
> the wmfwiki, so that discussion threads are clearly linked from the page in
> question, and conversely so that one can find all past discussion threads
> about that page. 

Rephrasing summary so this ticket becomes potentially actionable.
Comment 9 p858snake 2014-03-14 11:21:03 UTC
(In reply to Andre Klapper from comment #8)
> (In reply to SJ from comment #7)
> > Please allow visitors to leave comments directly in the Talk namespace on
> > the wmfwiki, so that discussion threads are clearly linked from the page in
> > question, and conversely so that one can find all past discussion threads
> > about that page. 
> 
> Rephrasing summary so this ticket becomes potentially actionable.

Reverting, This is a overall tracking bug for many things that need to (or can) be done. I will be filing several sub-bugs later on that target specific goals.
Comment 10 Andre Klapper 2014-03-14 12:05:14 UTC
For a tracking bug it would have to track actual actionable tasks which wasn't the case so far. Thanks for creating some sub-bugs soon!

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