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Bug 2668 - Time in Signature for de.wikipedia is UTC instead of CEST
Time in Signature for de.wikipedia is UTC instead of CEST
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 2658
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Internationalization (Other open bugs)
1.5.x
All All
: Low normal (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi...
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Blocks:
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Reported: 2005-07-02 11:06 UTC by Rainer Bielefeld
Modified: 2010-05-15 15:38 UTC (History)
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Description Rainer Bielefeld 2005-07-02 11:06:17 UTC
Time in Signature for de.wikipedia is UTC instead of CEST, if Signature is
created with '~~~~'
Comment 1 T. Gries 2005-07-02 11:22:10 UTC
This is a duplicate to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658
Comment 2 T. Gries 2005-07-02 11:27:50 UTC
Hallo Rainer,

the time is *correct* (in UTC), but the string is wrong (CEST)

In DefaultSettings.php, set $wgLocaltimezone = 'UTC';
I submitted this to the developers.

Comment 3 Hendrik Brummermann 2005-07-02 11:52:26 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> the time is *correct* (in UTC), but the string is wrong (CEST)
> In DefaultSettings.php, set $wgLocaltimezone = 'UTC';
> I submitted this to the developers.

I think it is the other way round: The String is correct but the time is wrong.
It should be CE(S)T not UTC.
Comment 4 T. Gries 2005-07-02 11:55:00 UTC
No, the timestamps are not rendered dynamically, but statically (the become part
of the page "source" code).

So, to show for any user the same time, (as far as I know), the best way is to
show _only_ UTC timestamps on ~~~~ signatures.
This does not influence the page edit times for your personal views (recent
chnages, watchlist etc.)
Comment 5 T. Gries 2005-07-02 11:55:19 UTC
No, the timestamps are not rendered dynamically, but statically (they become
part of the page "source" code).

So, to show for any user the same time, (as far as I know), the best way is to
show _only_ UTC timestamps on ~~~~ signatures.
This does not influence the page edit times for your personal views (recent
chnages, watchlist etc.)
Comment 6 JeLuF 2005-07-02 11:56:55 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 2658 ***
Comment 7 Hendrik Brummermann 2005-07-02 12:21:10 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> No, the timestamps are not rendered dynamically, but statically (they become
> part of the page "source" code).
> So, to show for any user the same time, (as far as I know), the best way is to
> show _only_ UTC timestamps on ~~~~ signatures.
> This does not influence the page edit times for your personal views (recent
> chnages, watchlist etc.)

I am aware of this. But the large marioty of user of the German Wikipedia are in
Central Europe. So this timezone should be used.
Comment 8 T. Gries 2005-07-02 13:45:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #7 -- and we should have follow up discussions on
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 because this bugzilla is
marked and closed as duplicate)
> ... But the large marioty of user of the German Wikipedia are in
> Central Europe. So this timezone should be used.

I fully understand.

Your argumentation gives also support for my patch
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505 for non-global wikis, where
$wgTimezoneoffsetOverwrite is introduced. Using this, a WikiSysop can switch all
time indications in the whole wiki to have a certain timeoffset. For Wikis
running Mid European Time, this currently needs two adaptations per year, 
$wgTimezoneoffsetOverwrite='01:00' (November - March) 
$wgTimezoneoffsetOverwrite= '02:00' (April-October). The single user wouldn't
have to adapt his/her user preferences any longer.

The variable was introduced as an ad-hoc fix. Until October 2005, I plan to have
a final solution for the '505 problem, namely to have an automatic time offset
correction based on a user TIMEZONE identifier; once entered into user
preferences, the wiki knows, where you are located and switches all time
inidcations for you to your preferred local time, e.g. "Gesetzliche Zeit in
Deutschland" (MEZ/CET or MESZ/CEST).

The '505-patch is part of my EnotifWiki (special edition of MediaWiki), see
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enotif and
http://sourceforge.net/projects/enotifwiki . Thus, any Sysop running EnotifWiki
can switch the whole wiki into (e.g.) UTC+2 mode; in this case, user preferences
show a message "offset: 02:00 (fixed)". If the Sysop sets
$wgTimezomecorrectionOverwrite=false; the wiki behaves like standard MediaWiki.

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