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Bug 25374 - Enable 'eliminator' flag on hiwiki and grant bureaucrats to add/remove this group
Enable 'eliminator' flag on hiwiki and grant bureaucrats to add/remove this ...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Site requests (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: High enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Rob Halsell
http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B...
: shell
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Reported: 2010-09-30 07:03 UTC by Mayur
Modified: 2010-11-16 15:05 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Mayur 2010-09-30 07:03:59 UTC
Hi, Due to less active admins in our projects we have decided to introduce a new user group "eliminator" as it was introduced in ptwiki as a  Bug 24623 , here we want only two rights for this user group

$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete']         = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete']       = true;

also enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group.

community consensus is at link-http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%96_20#Enable_Some_User_Groups

                              Thank you and Regards
Comment 1 Mayur 2010-10-01 08:19:42 UTC
Hi, please also enable some more right for this group along with following

$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete']         = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete']       = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['autopatrol']     = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback']       = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['ipblock-exempt'] = true;

and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group

Thank you and Regards
Comment 2 Mayur 2010-10-05 05:46:06 UTC
Please make this group in following-
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete']         = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete']       = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminador']['browsearchive']  = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback']       = true;

and and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group


Thank you and Regards
Comment 3 Chad H. 2010-10-05 21:12:12 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Hi, Due to less active admins in our projects we have decided to introduce a
> new user group "eliminator" 
>

Just pointing out the glaringly obvious...why don't you just promote more admins who will be active?
Comment 4 Mayur 2010-10-06 03:17:43 UTC
Actually an admin have many rights like blocking user, protecting page and other lots of right are there.just for Deleting vandalised pages and copyrighted pages it will not suitable to make a active person as admins, but giving him opportunity  to become a eliminator, editprotected and editinterface will improve his qualities and skills then after one year he may be promoted to admin.Thats why ptwiki requested on bug 24623 and their request was fullfilled.An admin have to do lots of work and every user have some his kind of interest like controlling vandalism, editing main page , protected pages to improve quality etc.

Making eliminator flag will not only stop addition of copyrighted material but also will remove vandalised pages.

Thank you and regards
Comment 5 Mayur 2010-10-19 11:19:09 UTC
Please make this group in following-
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete']         = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete']       = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminador']['browsearchive']  = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback']       = true;

and and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group


Thank you and Regards
Comment 6 Mayur 2010-11-14 16:19:31 UTC
Will any body resolve this bug
Comment 7 charitwo 2010-11-14 16:22:13 UTC
I still don't think this is needed...not at all. It promotes flag whoring and in most cases, its just easier to make new sysops. There's no reason to break it down, you either trust someone to use the tools responsibly or you don't. End of story.
Comment 8 Mayur 2010-11-14 16:25:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> I still don't think this is needed...not at all. It promotes flag whoring and
> in most cases, its just easier to make new sysops. There's no reason to break
> it down, you either trust someone to use the tools responsibly or you don't.
> End of story.

Actually an admin have many rights like blocking user, protecting page and
other lots of right are there.just for Deleting vandalised pages and
copyrighted pages it will not suitable to make a active person as admins, but
giving him opportunity  to become a eliminator, editprotected and editinterface
will improve his qualities and skills then after one year he may be promoted to
admin.Thats why ptwiki requested on bug 24623 and their request was
fullfilled.An admin have to do lots of work and every user have some his kind
of interest like controlling vandalism, editing main page , protected pages to
improve quality etc.

Making eliminator flag will not only stop addition of copyrighted material but
also will remove vandalised pages.
Comment 9 charitwo 2010-11-14 16:34:18 UTC
No, I just do not agree, sorry. They can be an admin and do all those things, just because they have this right or that right doesn't mean they'll need to use it...but its there just in case.
Comment 10 Mayur 2010-11-14 16:38:05 UTC
Giving admin right will not better in my opinion for only deleting pages, just we have rollbacker to roll back edit, in your opinion we should give admin right to rollback edits instead of rollback right only.

I completely defer from your opinion, just only for rollback, delete pages we cann't give the most powerful tool right to users.
Comment 11 Roan Kattouw 2010-11-16 15:05:31 UTC
Done.

Index: wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php
===================================================================
--- wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php   (revision 1330)
+++ wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php   (working copy)
@@ -5510,6 +5510,7 @@
            'editprotected' => array( 'editprotected' => true ),
            'interface_editor' => array( 'editinterface' => true ),
            'flood'  => array( 'bot' => true ),
+           'eliminator' => array( 'delete' => true, 'undelete' => true, 'rollback' => true, 'browsearchive' => true ),
     ),
     'hrwiki' => array(
        'patroller' => array( 'patrol' => true, 'autopatrol' => true, 'rollback' => true ),
@@ -5994,7 +5995,7 @@
                'sysop' => array( 'patroller', 'autopatrolled' ),
     ),
     '+hiwiki' => array(
-           'bureaucrat' => array( 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', ),
+           'bureaucrat' => array( 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', 'eliminator' ),
            'sysop' => array( 'confirmed', 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'editprotected', 'patroller', ),
     ),
     '+hrwiki' => array(
@@ -6263,7 +6264,7 @@
                'sysop' => array( 'patroller', 'autopatrolled' ),
     ),
     '+hiwiki' => array(
-           'bureaucrat' => array( 'sysop', 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter'),
+           'bureaucrat' => array( 'sysop', 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', 'eliminator' ),
            'sysop' => array( 'confirmed', 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'editprotected', 'patroller', ),
     ),
     '+hrwiki' => array(

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