Last modified: 2010-05-15 15:38:49 UTC
Hallo! This might relate to bug 57 "Single login on all wikimedia projects". If you log in you log in to *all* wikis. The problem is that [[Special:Listusers]] shows you in http://www.wikipage.de/de/index.php/Special:Listusers *de* http://www.wikipage.de/it/index.php/Special:Listusers *it* etc. You also have automatically talk pages in *all* wikis. Newbees would *not* know about their existence. They would not watch these pages in languages they do not understand. I would suggest that [[Special:Listusers]] should *not* show the users not logged in at / not "subscribing to" the actual project. Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Is there any simple way to fix this? If the user table is shared the local wiki is blind to what are local users and what are global users since the concept doesn't have any meaning anymore.
in response to comment 1 Maybe a aray related to "subscribing to" would be usefull. Imagine Wikipedia with mere then 100 languages and the sisterprojects. A feature that adds *all* users to [[Special:Listusers]] would not make much sense. There would be a problem identifying the *contributors*. I assume that listing [[Special:Listusers]] by number of contributions would require lot of server resources eaven if the page is cached. The only issue I feel against *individual log in* at Wikimedia foundation wikis is that I need to log in again at *all subscribed wikis* after version change and or maintenance tasks etc. There a single log in *to the subscribed wikis* would safe time. Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
This doesn't make any sense.
It does make sense. http://www.wikipage.de/de/index.php/Special:Listusers shows users that have never used the German version of Wikipage because anyone editing the Italian version will show up there. The request is for a display of users that have edited a particular wiki, rather than just people who have an account on the wider project. One of the reasons Uncyclopedia don't want to join the Wikicities user database is because they want their own list of users.
In response to comment 2 and comment 3 Hi! the old summary *in a crosswiki environment [[Special:Listusers]] shows users logged in at other projects* and the new *Change Special:Listusers to show only accounts with edits* are describing two requests: The old summary concerns also e-mail notification: users never "subscribing" to the Japanease wiki would get e-mails for new created pages (depends on a *global* setup) See http://www.wikipage.de/en/index.php/Special:Listusers I added a namespace, pagename and content language sensitive *navigation* in 6x6 [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] messages. You can easyly navigate both between the "local" wikis, to the WikiMedia foundation wikis (for the same content language) and other testwikis as FiverAlpha, Golem and Nuka-Wiki. [foo] shows all messages from the actual namespace. This navigation is available now only for default namespaces (including spacial pages - without parameters) but *not* for the custom ones. See and navigate at http://www.wikipage.de/en/index.php/Template:InterWiki_table . Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Just think of how expensive this query is going to be...
(In reply to comment #6) > Just think of how expensive this query is going to be... I visited http://wikicities.com/ these days because a friend asked for a place to open a community wiki. At "Wikicities" are / will be hundereds of wiki's. Because there *Single login* (bug 57) is implemented it happens that if you log in for example at "Wikigames" http://games.wikicities.com/ your user name apears automatically at "Egytopia" http://egytopia.wikicities.com/ and *all* other projects. This does not make much sense an Angela said because you might neither be interested in [[Egyptology]] nor may you understand Arabic. As it is now Special:Listusers does not make much sense there: some wiki's have 5 contributors and more then 10,000 are listed. If the query with the actual database scheme makes the query to expensive we should think about the required changes to the scheme. "Single login" in a multiwiki configuration will require more database tables anyhow. The product for "Single login" should be changed to "MediaWiki extensions". In the bug reports the product for many of the requirements which depends on "Single login" are now still "Mediawiki" and should be changed to "MediaWiki extensions". The actual request makes sense for "simple" installations also. Some time ago I have seen Wikipedia in some languages and was looking at [[Special:Listusers]]. The first idea wich camed in my mind was "These / many of these accounts have been generated with bot." A special page which does not provide the information you expect is more or less useless. This was another reason why I opened this request some months ago. Adding a flag to the user data record (best would be in own database table "subscribed") is nothing new. I guess that information related to "Special:Confirmemail" a) id the email confirmed? b) when? c) ... is stored in an own database table in a way which can be used also for the implementation of this request. I can not answer the question if there is pressure at the moment to implement this request. If there is none we should identify the other bug reports / feature requests which should be fixed / implemented together and find a solution which makes it possible to solve them all / to solve as many as possible. We could use a mailing list as [Mediawiki-l] and reference here to the thread or we can continue here. best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Removed bogus dependency, and closed as WONTFIX.
Special:Activeusers now shows only accounts with edits. See http://oss.wikicities.com/wiki/Special:Activeusers for example.
