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Bug 2474 - Change Special:Listusers to show only accounts with edits
Change Special:Listusers to show only accounts with edits
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Special pages (Other open bugs)
1.5.x
All All
: Lowest enhancement with 1 vote (vote)
: ---
Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://www.wikipage.de/it/index.php/S...
: crosswiki
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2005-06-21 11:29 UTC by lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Modified: 2010-05-15 15:38 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-06-21 11:29:22 UTC
Hallo!

This might relate to bug 57 "Single login on all wikimedia projects".

If you log in you log in to *all* wikis.

The problem is that [[Special:Listusers]] shows you in
http://www.wikipage.de/de/index.php/Special:Listusers *de*
http://www.wikipage.de/it/index.php/Special:Listusers *it* etc.

You also have automatically talk pages in *all* wikis. Newbees would *not* know
about their existence. They would not watch these pages in languages they do not
understand.

I would suggest that [[Special:Listusers]] should *not* show the users not
logged in at / not "subscribing to" the actual project.

Best regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-06-21 12:11:23 UTC
Is there any simple way to fix this? If the user table is shared the local wiki
is blind to what are local users and what are global users since the concept
doesn't have any meaning anymore.
Comment 2 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-06-21 13:56:10 UTC
in response to comment 1
Maybe a aray related to "subscribing to" would be usefull. Imagine Wikipedia
with mere then 100 languages and the sisterprojects.

A feature that adds *all* users to [[Special:Listusers]] would not make much
sense. There would be a problem identifying the *contributors*. I assume that
listing [[Special:Listusers]] by number of contributions would require lot of
server resources eaven if the page is cached.

The only issue I feel against *individual log in* at Wikimedia foundation wikis
is that I need to log in again at *all subscribed wikis* after version change
and or maintenance tasks etc. There a single log in *to the subscribed wikis*
would safe time.

Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 3 Brion Vibber 2005-06-21 21:05:59 UTC
This doesn't make any sense.
Comment 4 Angela 2005-06-23 09:42:44 UTC
It does make sense. http://www.wikipage.de/de/index.php/Special:Listusers shows
users that have never used the German version of Wikipage because anyone editing
the Italian version will show up there. The request is for a display of users
that have edited a particular wiki, rather than just people who have an account
on the wider project. 

One of the reasons Uncyclopedia don't want to join the Wikicities user database
is because they want their own list of users. 
Comment 5 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-06-25 02:52:13 UTC
In response to comment 2 and comment 3

Hi!
the old summary
*in a crosswiki environment [[Special:Listusers]] shows users logged in at other
projects*
and the new
*Change Special:Listusers to show only accounts with edits*
are describing two requests:

The old summary concerns also e-mail notification: users never "subscribing" to
the Japanease wiki would get e-mails for new created pages (depends on a
*global* setup)

See http://www.wikipage.de/en/index.php/Special:Listusers
I added a namespace, pagename and content language sensitive *navigation* in 6x6
[[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] messages. You can easyly navigate both between the
"local" wikis, to the WikiMedia foundation wikis (for the same content language)
and other testwikis as FiverAlpha, Golem and Nuka-Wiki. [foo] shows all messages
from the actual namespace. This navigation is available now only for default
namespaces (including spacial pages - without parameters) but *not* for the
custom ones. See and navigate at
http://www.wikipage.de/en/index.php/Template:InterWiki_table .

Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 6 Rob Church 2005-12-11 15:31:47 UTC
Just think of how expensive this query is going to be...
Comment 7 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-12-11 17:11:55 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> Just think of how expensive this query is going to be...

I visited http://wikicities.com/ these days because a friend asked for a place
to open a community wiki. At "Wikicities" are / will be hundereds of wiki's.
Because there *Single login* (bug 57) is implemented it happens that if you log
in for example at "Wikigames" http://games.wikicities.com/ your user name apears
automatically at "Egytopia" http://egytopia.wikicities.com/ and *all* other
projects. This does not make much sense an Angela said because you might neither
be interested in [[Egyptology]] nor may you understand Arabic. As it is now
Special:Listusers does not make much sense there: some wiki's have 5
contributors and more then 10,000 are listed.

If the query with the actual database scheme makes the query to expensive we
should think about the required changes to the scheme. "Single login" in a
multiwiki configuration will require more database tables anyhow.

The product for "Single login" should be changed to "MediaWiki extensions". In
the bug reports the product for many of the requirements which depends on
"Single login" are now still "Mediawiki" and should be changed to "MediaWiki
extensions". The actual request makes sense for "simple" installations also.
Some time ago I have seen Wikipedia in some languages and was looking at
[[Special:Listusers]]. The first idea wich camed in my mind was "These / many of
these accounts have been generated with bot." A special page which does not
provide the information you expect is more or less useless. This was another
reason why I opened this request some months ago.

Adding a flag to the user data record (best would be in own database table
"subscribed") is nothing new. I guess that information related to
"Special:Confirmemail"
a) id the email confirmed?
b) when?
c) ...
is stored in an own database table in a way which can be used also for the
implementation of this request.

I can not answer the question if there is pressure at the moment to implement
this request. If there is none we should identify the other bug reports /
feature requests which should be fixed / implemented together and find a
solution which makes it possible to solve them all / to solve as many as
possible. We could use a mailing list as [Mediawiki-l] and reference here to the
thread or we can continue here.

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 8 Brion Vibber 2005-12-11 21:21:13 UTC
Removed bogus dependency, and closed as WONTFIX.
Comment 9 Angela 2006-02-27 23:42:35 UTC
Special:Activeusers now shows only accounts with edits. See
http://oss.wikicities.com/wiki/Special:Activeusers for example. 


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