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Bug 2463 - Simple way of retrieving different language-version
Simple way of retrieving different language-version
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 14024
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
API (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2005-06-20 11:11 UTC by Patrice Levesque
Modified: 2009-03-30 17:17 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Patrice Levesque 2005-06-20 11:11:13 UTC
Context
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Let's say I maintain my own bird website.  I give info about birds and for each
bird I also add an hyperlink to the appropriate Wikipedia page (on my "Eagle"
page, I link to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle").

Now, people from around the world propose translations for my website; every
translator must find a replacement for each and every Wikipedia link.


Proposition
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A simple enhancement: a GET "API" for automatic "translation" of Wiki pages.  By
that I simply mean a link to a wiki page but with a language preference.  Example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle?pref=fr

This link would bring me to the french version of Eagle
(http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aigle_%28oiseau%29).  If no french page match the
"Eagle" english page, the link would give me the english page as a fallback.


Why?
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This would help a lot for translating web pages; advantages I see:
* Simplification for translators: no need to look for a translation for every link;
* Automatic update of links: if the french page for "Eagle" changes URI, no need
to change anything on my website; I must only keep an eye on the original
(english) language.
* Pre-translation: if no translation exists yet in a given language, a link can
be written now, knowing the translated page will appear one day.


Why can't I just write a wrapper?
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I could write a wrapper on my side, fetching the english page, parsing the DOM,
looking for links in the "in other languages" box and give my visitors the right
page, but I feel it wastes wikipedia's resources and adds a big overhead for
something that (I think!) could be easily added in wikimedia's codebase.
Comment 1 Brian Jason Drake 2005-11-10 07:50:04 UTC
I have changed the summary from "Simple API for 
automatic language translation". The old summary was 
misleading as it was still humans doing the actual 
translating!
Comment 2 Kevin Baas 2006-04-16 01:08:55 UTC
there is an easier way to do this. see <a
href="http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5353">bug 5353</a> if
there's a link in "other languages" to the other wiki, we already know that the
page exists AND the name of it.  All we need to do is place the link, that we
already have and know leads to an existing page, inside a fixed URL string.
Comment 3 Patrice Levesque 2006-04-16 04:20:47 UTC
I don't get what you mean Kevin.  From what I understand you suggest using
Google Translate; peeking at the Tom DeLay example on bug 5353 hurts my eyes -
you wouldn't rely on facts from a machine-translated encylopedia, wouldn't you?

What I meant is a tool that will bring a _native_ version when available.  For a
polish version of the english 'tree' article, return the 'drzewo' article on the
polish wikipedia; if there's no polish version of the article, return the
english one.

Comment 4 Roan Kattouw 2008-09-06 22:01:29 UTC
No activity in over two years, closing as WONTFIX. Please REOPEN if you've got a valid reason.
Comment 5 Patrice Levesque 2008-09-07 18:13:58 UTC
RFE is still valid.
Comment 6 Platonides 2008-09-07 18:25:56 UTC
It's just a query on langlinks where ll_from = current page and ll_lang = the pref
However, i'd favour a different name than pref for the parameter. What about useiw ?
Comment 7 Mike.lifeguard 2009-03-23 01:46:00 UTC
I guess this is an API request. AFAICT, the bot-interface keyword isn't used any longer (this being the only open bug using it).
Comment 8 Roan Kattouw 2009-03-30 17:17:44 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 14024 ***

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