Last modified: 2013-06-18 16:10:57 UTC
We end up changing the same old mailing list configuration options each time we create a new list... and when we don't, we have new admins not understanding what's wrong or how to fix it. Please change the following default configuration setting(s) in mm_cfg.py (you can read the defaults in Default.py): DEFAULT_REPLY_GOES_TO_LIST = 1 // This makes replies go to the list by default. Cary, is there anything else we normally change that we want to be changed by default? As a reminder, this is just the defaults, individual list admins can still override the default if they want.
Cary mentioned that it would be cool if we could obfuscate/"nospam" the list admin address by default (for example, $list list run by $admin-emails-with-mailto-to-"-owner" switched to $list run by $list-owner (at) lists (dot) wikimedia (dot) org). There are probably a few ways to go about this, so I'll just give you the information he gave me and let you guys figure out the best way. :-) <kibble> I'm back with more questions... does anyone know where the variables are defined? (e.g. <MM-Mailman-Footer>) <kibble> Is it possible to add new variables? And if we edit the default listinfo.html, will it get overwritten in the next update? <msapiro> kibble: 1) Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py 2) You can add new variables. 3) if you edit the listinfo template via the list's admin GUI or following the instructions at http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9 they will not be overwritten in an update, but your new variable definitions in HTMLFormatter.py will be.
Sounds like some lists might preferes to have reply-to set to the original author. I am not sure how we could have a consensus on this. Either it could be the default settings or up to the list to choose if they want reply to go to the list. I am not sure we should take such a decision.
Not sure about masking list owners... it's sometimes very useful to know, who is *really* hiding behind the list owner, some list admins don't always remember they are list admins and so on. If having full email address is an issue, a wiki-nickname or just username (cary, moka, ...) or something would be much better.
(In reply to comment #2) > Sounds like some lists might preferes to have reply-to set to the original > author. Indeed. This is just the default mailing list settings for new lists. I already make these changes whenever I create a new mailing this, this is just making the list creation process easier. :-) Most of our mailing lists will want the reply-to set to the list itself, so it makes sense to make that the default.
Bump this a little bit. For now we can do just the "change the default reply to" mentioned in comment 1 -- it's a one character switch-a-roo. :-) I'll create another bug to do the other stuff if we decide we want that in the future. There should not be a problem with this since I'm the one who creates mailing lists and change all of the lists I create to "reply to list" already. I'm pretty sure that we always *wanted* replies to go to the list anyway because [[wikitech:Lists.wikimedia.org#Mailman setup]] says "Set Reply-To to the list by default".
Removing "shell" keyword for things that aren't directly doable by shell users etc
Adding ops keyword
Removing shell keyword if exists
http://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1240 for changing default reply-to
Reported fixed on RT. Please let me know if there is a problem.
Confirmed that it's working. Thanks, Mark!
