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Bug 2424 - Remove the "Current events" and "Donations" links from the sidebar
Remove the "Current events" and "Donations" links from the sidebar
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Interface (Other open bugs)
1.5.x
All All
: Lowest normal with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2005-06-16 11:47 UTC by Guttorm Flatabø
Modified: 2014-03-17 14:23 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Attachments
Unified (3 lines) patch made to Language.php 1.563, made with Winmerge (441 bytes, patch)
2005-06-16 12:16 UTC, Guttorm Flatabø
Details

Description Guttorm Flatabø 2005-06-16 11:47:36 UTC
The way the sidebar is implemented in Language.php now (1.563) there are at
least one (perhaps two) items that most sites wont need:

** currentevents-url|currentevents

and perhaps

** sitesupport-url|sitesupport

I suggest they be commented out.
Comment 1 Guttorm Flatabø 2005-06-16 12:16:54 UTC
Created attachment 611 [details]
Unified (3 lines) patch made to Language.php 1.563, made with Winmerge
Comment 2 River Tarnell 2005-06-16 12:26:11 UTC
as mediawiki is primarily used for wikimedia websites, which use these entries, 
i'm not sure changing the default is particularly useful. 
Comment 3 Rowan Collins [IMSoP] 2005-06-16 13:15:04 UTC
Note: These entries can be hidden by any admin by setting the relevant
MediaWiki:... page to "-"; as of 1.4, they can also be completely rearranged in
LocalSettings.php by anyone with appropriate access to that file.
Comment 4 Rowan Collins [IMSoP] 2005-06-16 13:43:14 UTC
[Sorry - I think that comment is out of date, as the sidebar code seems to have
been changed yet again]
Comment 5 Guttorm Flatabø 2005-06-16 13:45:24 UTC
I know that anyone can fix this in MediaWiki:, (and note that from now on its
done i MediaWiki:sidebar, using "-" will not work, try test.leuksman.com with
"Norsk (nynorsk)" interface language) however most sites that need these links,
including Wikimedia sites, already use the MediaWiki namespace for the sidebar.
The majority of Wikimedia sites (small languages) wont need the "current events"
links either because the communities are too small to keep such a page up to
date. nn.wikipedia.org f.ex. don't use it.

Note that I files this bug exactly because I don't want the current events link
on nn.wikipedia.org, and was going to implement it in LanguageNn.php, but then
Avar went ahead and added a comment in Language.php that we're not supposed to
do this.
Comment 6 Guttorm Flatabø 2005-06-16 13:46:20 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> [Sorry - I think that comment is out of date, as the sidebar code seems to have
> been changed yet again]

And now my comment is also somewhat out of date:-)
Comment 7 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-06-16 17:29:56 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Note that I files this bug exactly because I don't want the current events link
> on nn.wikipedia.org, and was going to implement it in LanguageNn.php, but then
> Avar went ahead and added a comment in Language.php that we're not supposed to
> do this.

The interface in MediaWiki should be kept consistant across languages, and that includes the sidebar which should be the same for them all. Note however that since I changed the sidebar 
generating code it's now trivial to change the sidebars, after 1.5 goes live you can edit MediaWiki:Sidebar at nn.wikipedia.org and remove the current events entry, or even add new ones.
Comment 8 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-06-16 18:23:45 UTC
in replay to comment 7 "The interface in MediaWiki should be kept consistant
across languages"

It *should* but it is *not*. I visited several wikis two months ago trying to
link "village pumps" (some can be reached directly from at "community portal"),
ambassies, etc.

In bug 2030: "anomalies in the "Navigation" menue while selcting a different
languages in [[Special:Preferences]]" I tried to explain this and related impacts.

The navigation does / did *not* depend on the "content" of the wiki. It is / was
depending on the selected user interface. This is not the *optimal* solution.

Regards Reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
Comment 9 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-06-16 18:35:23 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> in replay to comment 7 "The interface in MediaWiki should be kept consistant
> across languages"
> 
> It *should* but it is *not*. I visited several wikis two months ago trying to
> link "village pumps" (some can be reached directly from at "community portal"),
> ambassies, etc.

The sites that you had problems with were Wikimedia sites, Wikimedia sites do
not run a stock configuration of MediaWiki and that goes for the sidebars too,
specifically people sometimes change the messages so that the current events or
donations link is not displayed and sometimes even use the current events
message to link to a completely different page. There might be a problem however
with some language files currently in CVS, and if so, please file bugs for those.
Comment 10 Guttorm Flatabø 2005-06-16 21:00:26 UTC
I haven't filed this bug because I want to keep nn.wikipedia simple, I know, and
knew that its perfectly simple to do that trough the MediaWiki namespace.

I've file this bug because I think the two items (donations and current events)
will not be needed on the average MediaWiki wiki, and thus they should be diabled.
Comment 11 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2005-06-24 05:34:14 UTC
I changed the summary to reflect what this is actually about.

I should also mention that before I changed the sidebar code to its current form
the Donations link was not on in the default distribution, I put it back in
because I thought that it could be removed anyway.
Comment 12 Mark Nelson 2005-07-28 06:23:40 UTC
Using 1.5beta3, setting the messages to '-' doesn't disable them---it just
causes '-' to show up in the sidebar.  It *does* still work to disable the
disclaimer footer though.
Comment 13 Brion Vibber 2005-07-28 16:18:03 UTC
Setting the _link_ messages to '-' should indeed work. Setting the _text_ messages doesn't. I'm not totally sure what's 
the best way to handle it, but the text form was problematic -- it meant that changing UI languages could make things 
appear and disappear, which really is bad behavior.

I think it's more consistent to control that with the link messages (or ... just remove them from the sidebar).
Comment 14 Plàcid Pérez Bru 2006-04-13 06:07:32 UTC
In Catalan Wikipedia "Actualitat" at the left of all our pages linked to
"Viquipèdia:Actualitat", but now it links to "Current events". Please, would
some body remake the ancient link. 

Please, can some body place in our pages the word "Donacions" (catalan) instead
of "Donations" (english) and link it to:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donatius
Comment 15 Rob Church 2006-12-27 07:19:17 UTC
What this boiled down to was that a user didn't agree with the default sidebar.
That's all right, not all sites will need a donations link, or links to
community portals and so forth; this is why we make it easy to change. It's more
targeted as examples of what might be suitable for the sidebar.

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