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Bug 18946 - Contact information for mailing lists
Contact information for mailing lists
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
Mailing lists (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Normal enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Fred Vassard
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:M...
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2009-05-27 07:40 UTC by Flominator
Modified: 2009-05-29 15:54 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description Flominator 2009-05-27 07:40:14 UTC
Hi there,

some weeks ago I tried to find out what to do to create a new mailing list. Therefore I visited http://lists.wikimedia.org/ and got redirected to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/overview . The page doesn't say a word on how to create new lists. Some time later, I tried it with http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists and found the information I needed.

Why doesn't lists.wm.org redirect directly to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists ?

I also tried https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo and emailed mailman@lists.wikimedia.org but didn't get any response as well. Is this address monitored at all?

Best regards,

Flo
Comment 1 Casey Brown 2009-05-27 20:34:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> some weeks ago I tried to find out what to do to create a new mailing list.

For future reference: create a bug here (bugzilla) in the Mailing lists component, assigned to Cary.  Direct link:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component=Mailing+lists&assigned_to=cbass@wikimedia.org

Things to include
* requested list name
* reasoning/explanation of purpose (and community consensus, if applicable)
* initial list admin address

> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists and found the information I
> needed.

That information is actually incorrect, I'll update it with the information I gave you above.
 
> Why doesn't lists.wm.org redirect directly to
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists ?

I agree it should be redirected there.

> I also tried https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo and emailed
> mailman@lists.wikimedia.org but didn't get any response as well. Is this
> address monitored at all?
> 

That's actually a mailing list too: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman>, I'm not sure if it's monitored (but it probably gets a lot of spam ;-)).
Comment 2 Brion Vibber 2009-05-27 20:38:46 UTC
Honestly I think I'd rather have lists.wikimedia.org redirect straight to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo which has the distinct advantage of actually being current at all times. :) I believe the header text can be edited, so we could add a link to the meta pages.
Comment 3 Casey Brown 2009-05-27 20:44:40 UTC
That could work too, would probably be better. :-)
Comment 4 Brion Vibber 2009-05-28 22:59:14 UTC
Fred, can you take a peek at this sometime? Should be something on the order of:

1) Update the header text for the listinfo page to include a link to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists .

2) Update the Apache config for lists.wikimedia.org to change the redirect for the root page to point at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Thanks!
Comment 5 Fred Vassard 2009-05-29 15:54:55 UTC
Completed. 
Step 2 was straightforward (albeit using lighthttpd instead of Apache).
Step 1 was more tricky and required a change in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py (it took me forever to find this!)

Anyway, you should be all set!

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