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Bug 16897 - Commons rejects upload file as "bad named"
Commons rejects upload file as "bad named"
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Product: Wikimedia
Classification: Unclassified
General/Unknown (Other open bugs)
unspecified
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
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Reported: 2009-01-06 00:48 UTC by Piotr Kubowicz
Modified: 2009-01-06 01:44 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Piotr Kubowicz 2009-01-06 00:48:30 UTC
When I try to upload a file under the name "Ru-у.ogg" ("у" is in cyryllic, not in latin alphabet) to Wikimedia Commons, I get a message:

Permissions Errors

You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason: 
The name of the file you are uploading begins with PICT, DSC, image, ..., which is a non-descriptive name typically assigned automatically by digital cameras. Please choose a more descriptive name for your file.
Comment 1 Mike.lifeguard 2009-01-06 00:59:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> When I try to upload a file under the name "Ru-у.ogg" ("у" is in cyryllic,
> not in latin alphabet) to Wikimedia Commons, I get a message:
> 
> Permissions Errors
> 
> You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason: 
> The name of the file you are uploading begins with PICT, DSC, image, ..., which
> is a non-descriptive name typically assigned automatically by digital cameras.
> Please choose a more descriptive name for your file.
> 

That file matches the title blacklist, which is used to weed out file names which are not descriptive. Please choose another one which is descriptive. Marking as INVALID.
Comment 2 Conrad Irwin 2009-01-06 01:02:56 UTC
The standard format for pronunciation files across the wiktionaries is "languagecode-(dialect-)word.ogg" it is obvious to me that this is the pronunciation of у in Russian (in the same way en-uk-hello.ogg is the correct title for that. Forcing a break in this standardisation would be tedious to say the least, particularly for the automated tools that are the ones mainly using these files. ~~~~
Comment 3 Mike.lifeguard 2009-01-06 01:06:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> The standard format for pronunciation files across the wiktionaries is
> "languagecode-(dialect-)word.ogg" it is obvious to me that this is the
> pronunciation of у in Russian (in the same way en-uk-hello.ogg is the correct
> title for that. Forcing a break in this standardisation would be tedious to say
> the least, particularly for the automated tools that are the ones mainly using
> these files. ~~~~
> 

That is an incredibly terrible thing to do - assuming the file will have and keep this nondescript title is just plain wrong for reasons that should be obvious. Furthermore, is definitely *not* a MediaWiki bug. Take it up on Commons if you have an issue with this.
Comment 4 Chad H. 2009-01-06 01:12:08 UTC
Reclosing as INVALID, not an issue with MW.
Comment 5 Piotr Kubowicz 2009-01-06 01:29:41 UTC
Ok, so tell my why it's possible to create file:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:De-U.OGG

and not with the name "Ru-у.ogg"? Where is the important difference between them?

"Ru-у.ogg" is the *only valid name* for the pronunciation of word "у" in Russian. These are rules for pronunciation files on Commons enforced on all files without exception. It has to be possible to upload such file, no matter of circumstances.
Comment 6 Mike.lifeguard 2009-01-06 01:35:56 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Ok, so tell my why it's possible to create file:
> 
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:De-U.OGG
> 
> and not with the name "Ru-у.ogg"? Where is the important difference between
> them?
> 
> "Ru-у.ogg" is the *only valid name* for the pronunciation of word "у" in
> Russian. These are rules for pronunciation files on Commons enforced on all
> files without exception. It has to be possible to upload such file, no matter
> of circumstances.
> 

Not a MediaWiki issue, thus closed /again/.

Please see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Titleblacklist and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Titleblacklist
Comment 7 p858snake 2009-01-06 01:37:40 UTC
Changing Product from Mediawiki to Wikimedia
Comment 8 Conrad Irwin 2009-01-06 01:44:11 UTC
Added bug-report to commons, where it should be. See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Failed_upload_of_File:Ru-.D1.83.ogg

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