Last modified: 2011-11-25 08:36:12 UTC
On dewiki many administrators are requesting a change to the process of re-blocking users. It'd be useful to have a checkbox "[ ] confirm re-block" and therefor to require active confirmation when Re-blocking a user. Having a small message "<user> is already blocked. Do you want to change the settings?" and a different text on the submit button "Re-block the user with these settings" is not sufficient, as most administrators don't read the whole text when they block. Re-blocking without consensus or agreement of the blocking administrator is often regarded as rude on dewiki, therefor most administrators wish to avoid re-blocks by accident. Consensus on this bugreport on the Administrators'_noticeboard: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administratoren/Notizen#Verl.C3.A4ngerung.2FVerk.C3.BCrzung_von_Sperren_.232
(In reply to comment #0) > On dewiki many administrators are requesting a change to the process of > re-blocking users. It'd be useful to have a checkbox "[ ] confirm re-block" and > therefor to require active confirmation when Re-blocking a user. Having a small > message "<user> is already blocked. Do you want to change the settings?" and a > different text on the submit button "Re-block the user with these settings" is > not sufficient, as most administrators don't read the whole text when they > block. > > Re-blocking without consensus or agreement of the blocking administrator is > often regarded as rude on dewiki, therefor most administrators wish to avoid > re-blocks by accident. > > Consensus on this bugreport on the Administrators'_noticeboard: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administratoren/Notizen#Verl.C3.A4ngerung.2FVerk.C3.BCrzung_von_Sperren_.232 > This was the case until recently. There was a checkbox (unchecked by default, IIRC) which one had to check off to change block settings. I don't know what the problem was with that - it seemed perfectly sensible to me that 1) You would require active confirmation for something like that and 2) You would use a checkbox in exactly that manner to do it So, probably it is a simple revert of whatever commit changed that.
When I go to block a blocked user I get a 'Already blocked' message and the submit button says "reblock this user". Is a checkbox really needed here?
(In reply to comment #2) > When I go to block a blocked user I get a 'Already blocked' message and the > submit button says "reblock this user". > > Is a checkbox really needed here? > Well, we want some sort of /active/ confirmation - not just notification. Whether it's a checkbox or something else (dunno what it could be) is immaterial.
Just like moving a page to a location where a page already exists - a checkbox to confirm that you want to delete the page is shown.
There's a similiar problem (with the same solution) in case a sysop for whatever reason reuses a pre-filled open block dialog to issue another block. Steps to reproduce: - open Special:Block/BlockedVillain - change victim - Press enter This may seem constructed, but it actually happens. Opening the first dialog fills every required field, pressing enter on name change (maybe out of habit) triggers the block. I'm somewhat unhappy with that from a usability perspective. Changing the name is possible, it's therefore perfectly valid user input. The blocking sysop is however unlikely to want the exact same block on the newly entered account and may thus feel the block triggered too early. (Which is what actually happened to a fellow sysop.) Any kind of active confirmation when using an already filled form would solve this. Cheers, --mnh
(In reply to comment #1) > (In reply to comment #0) > > On dewiki many administrators are requesting a change to the process of > > re-blocking users. It'd be useful to have a checkbox "[ ] confirm re-block" and > > therefor to require active confirmation when Re-blocking a user. Having a small > > message "<user> is already blocked. Do you want to change the settings?" and a > > different text on the submit button "Re-block the user with these settings" is > > not sufficient, as most administrators don't read the whole text when they > > block. > > > > Re-blocking without consensus or agreement of the blocking administrator is > > often regarded as rude on dewiki, therefor most administrators wish to avoid > > re-blocks by accident. > > > > Consensus on this bugreport on the Administrators'_noticeboard: > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administratoren/Notizen#Verl.C3.A4ngerung.2FVerk.C3.BCrzung_von_Sperren_.232 > > > > This was the case until recently. There was a checkbox (unchecked by default, > IIRC) which one had to check off to change block settings. I don't know what > the problem was with that - it seemed perfectly sensible to me that > 1) You would require active confirmation for something like that and > 2) You would use a checkbox in exactly that manner to do it > > So, probably it is a simple revert of whatever commit changed that. r43870?