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Bug 1621 - Request for "Create as blank" button for new pages
Request for "Create as blank" button for new pages
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Page editing (Other open bugs)
All All
: Lowest enhancement (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
Depends on:
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Reported: 2005-03-02 20:01 UTC by PS
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:04 UTC (History)
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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


Description PS 2005-03-02 20:01:30 UTC
This is so useful... the current "add random text, save, delete 
random text, save" process for creating a blank page isn't elegant.  

A small "Create as blank page" button that showed up for new pages 
would be so nice :)
Comment 1 Antoine "hashar" Musso (WMF) 2005-03-27 20:08:57 UTC
blank pages should not exist or links pointing to them will be
blue instead of red (non existant article).
Comment 2 PS 2005-03-28 23:36:54 UTC
Sometimes you want a blank page, eg user and user talk.  It happens enough that 
the help pages have directions how to create one.  It just seems silly that you 
can do it ... but to do it you have to add something, and then edit *again* to 
delete it.
Comment 3 peter green 2005-03-28 23:40:32 UTC
just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it or that it should be

a red link is a hint that there is no information there. this applies just as
much to user or user talk pages as to any other page. Why are you helping users
to break this functionality?
Comment 4 PS 2005-03-29 10:40:36 UTC
Mediawiki is used by a wide range of sites.  Some may want that functionality 
and not see it as "breaking" anything.  

A config option to allow it doesn't strike me as "breaking" anything, it's just 
best not to assume because you personally wouldn't want blank pages to exist at 
times, others wouldn't either.
Comment 5 Rowan Collins [IMSoP] 2005-03-30 23:40:07 UTC
Another way of phrasing Ashar's objection (if I can call it that) is that
creating a blank page is, in itself, an inelegant solution to a different
problem. Better than creating a "make me a blank page" button, with its
accompanying disadvantages, would be to analyse what the problem is you are
actually trying to solve. 

For instance, you mention User and User_talk pages, so perhaps what you actually
want is a way for these to appear as "blue links" [i.e. exist] as soon as the
user is created? Creating a blank page (or, even better, a page with appropriate
and configurable filler text - e.g. "This user joined on..." for User:,
"Welcome..." for User_talk:) as part of the user creation process is a very
different proposition from letting any user create empty stubs at the click of a
button. I suspect that other uses of such a feature could be similarly reframed
as more specific requests.

Meanwhile, what's wrong with creating a page with a single '.', or the text
"This page deliberately left blank.", or referencing a template containing one
of those - or even referencing a completely blank template? :P

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