Last modified: 2010-05-15 14:36:05 UTC
A small, unobtrusive "diff" link added to the orange "You have new messages" box (perhaps in the lower right corner) would make it a little easier for users to keep up with their talk pages, especially when they have multiple conversations going on. Very helpful for experienced and active users with long busy talk pages, and not too confusing for newbies, one would hope.... Just an idea - discard if it's expensive for any reason.
The message _is_ linked with the User_talk page. What do you mean exactly, pls. can you elaborate ? Tom
(In reply to comment #1) > The message _is_ linked with the User_talk page. > What do you mean exactly, pls. can you elaborate ? > Tom I mean a "diff" link -- so that one could go directly to a diff between the current and previous version of your talk page, highlighting the new addition. Often when I'm carrying on multiple conversations on different parts of the page, I click the "new messages" link to go to User_Talk, then the "history" tab, then the "last" link to find what has changed -- rather than scrolling through several complex sets of indented messages trying to spot the new addition (and sometimes missing additional comments elsewhere). I'm guessing it might be an unnecessary drain on the server, and the answer is "keep your talk page better trimmed", but it /would/ be an improvement on the talk system if there was a simple way for "you have new messages" to lead you directly to those new messages, instead of just dumping you into your inbox with no indication of what's actually new. Just throwing it out there in case there's a simple, inexpensive solution.
(In reply to comment #2) > I mean a "diff" link -- so that one could go directly to a diff between the current and previous version of your talk page, > highlighting the new addition. oops, I did not read carefully exact, but now I fully understand. I program for you a (diff) link AND (diff-to-last-visited revision) link !! It comes for free with my ENotif very soon http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454 ;-)) Thanks for the suggestion. Tom
depending on ENotif because of timestamp / revision storages (last seen version)
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Email_notification_screenshots#Version_3.05
Catherine: your idea with the "diff" links *is* implemented in ENotif/EConfirm v3.16, see http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454 . I cannot say, whether this will be implemented in public release version or not, but I fully support it.
*** Bug 3219 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
implemented in MediaWiki special version EnotifWiki http://www.enotifwiki.org (which runs this code live). See also screenshot of the modied marker on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Enotif#Features
Created attachment 1221 [details] Patch against HEAD Dah-dum! Patch against HEAD.
see http://www.enotifwiki.org (your patch does not work - the difference to the last seen version of the watching(!) user is meant. It needs a new column in table watchlist)
(In reply to comment #10) > see http://www.enotifwiki.org (your patch does not work - the difference to the > last seen version of the watching(!) user is meant. It needs a new column in > table watchlist) Unless I'm mistaken, the request was for a link to the diff of the most recent change to the user's talk page. That is what I've implemented.
(In reply to comment #11) > (In reply to comment #10) > > see http://www.enotifwiki.org (your patch does not work - the difference to the > > last seen version of the watching(!) user is meant. It needs a new column in > > table watchlist) > > Unless I'm mistaken, the request was for a link to the diff of the most recent > change to the user's talk page. That is what I've implemented. ok. I see what you mean (I had filed another bugzilla some months ago, where I suggested to change "diff" to "prev" to indicate, that a difference to the previous version is meant; however, this suggestion was dismissed, because it was a major change to the user interface). Sorry. You are right. _I_ misunderstood, because I was biased to _my_ understanding of the word "diff".
No problem.
(In reply to comment #13) > No problem. Rob, it would be a pleasure to me, if you "play" with http://www.enotifwiki.org to see, how the new "new message marker" works. I mean: _really_ guiding any user to the difference between the current and the last-seen-version. Take your time and let me know your thoughts about it.
Comment on attachment 1221 [details] Patch against HEAD Patch had input validation issues and didn't apply.
RESOLVED in CVS HEAD, now shows a "diff to penultimate revision" link.
