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Bug 1510 - Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing
Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: MediaWiki
Classification: Unclassified
Page editing (Other open bugs)
unspecified
All All
: Lowest enhancement with 6 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody - You can work on this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t...
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: 2438 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2005-02-11 05:00 UTC by SJ
Modified: 2011-03-13 18:04 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Assignee Huggle Beta Tester: ---


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Description SJ 2005-02-11 05:00:24 UTC
Some wiki platforms offer a nice soft-locking feature, where users are warned if
any other user has started editing the page/section they have just begun to edit
within the last [few minutes].  

For instance, Moinmoin has messages of the form: "Other users will be warned
until 2005-02-11 07:11:45 that you are editing this page. Use the Preview button
to extend the locking period."

This would be moughty helpful, and would save the use of ugly {{inuse}} templates.
Comment 1 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2005-10-03 17:09:53 UTC
compare with

bug 2438: Prevent edit conflicts with "in use" warning
Comment 2 Omegatron 2005-10-03 17:31:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> bug 2438: Prevent edit conflicts with "in use" warning

Aren't these duplicates?
Comment 3 Brion Vibber 2005-10-03 20:09:50 UTC
*** Bug 2438 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Omegatron 2006-06-16 07:21:57 UTC
More detailed description in Bug 2438
Comment 5 Phil Boswell 2006-06-16 07:30:23 UTC
So are you suggesting that we provide a "View source" tab in all circumstances? 
Because I frequently open mostly templates in "Edit mode" to copy and paste code 
around, and this would result in those pages being left unusable in the meantime.
Comment 6 Omegatron 2006-06-16 07:52:26 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> So are you suggesting that we provide a "View source" tab in all circumstances? 
> Because I frequently open mostly templates in "Edit mode" to copy and paste code 
> around, and this would result in those pages being left unusable in the meantime.

Please read the descriptions again.  This is a warning; not an edit lock.
Comment 7 Gwern Branwen 2006-10-10 18:15:16 UTC
Phil: if you open a page and it warns you, and you go ahead any way, then you
are no worse off than before when you had no idea whether there was anyone else
interested or not (since many people don't use or don't know about {{inuse}}).
Comment 8 JeLuF 2006-10-10 18:19:22 UTC
We have automatic conflict resolution, a warning would be meaningless for most
users, since their edit would be merged automatically. I'd propose to close this
as WONTFIX
Comment 9 Omegatron 2006-10-10 18:22:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> We have automatic conflict resolution,

which only works in some situations.
Comment 10 Voyagerfan5761 / dgw 2008-01-23 04:52:07 UTC
There is an Ajax Show Editors extension in SVN, though it requires a schema change (an extra table). It adds a div above the edit window with currently editing users and how long it's been since they last typed in the box. Perhaps that functionality could be merged into mainstream MW?
Comment 12 Omegatron 2008-01-23 14:02:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditWarning

Hmmm.

* It should recognize anonymous edits, too.
* If the "page lock" feature is implemented, we should make sure it is turned off for Wikipedia.
Comment 13 Roan Kattouw 2008-01-23 14:06:23 UTC
(In reply to comment #12)
> * It should recognize anonymous edits, too.
Should be easy to do, user_id=0 and user_name='123.456.789.012'. Unfortunately, the extension isn't in SVN, maybe the author should be contacted.

Comment 14 Aaron Schulz 2008-08-04 03:46:12 UTC
This is too obtrusive for new users. Auto-merging and improved conflict handling is the way to go, not just saying "you shouldn't edit" or "be warned".
Comment 15 Omegatron 2008-08-04 03:50:35 UTC
This should definitely be fixed.  Edit conflicts are far too obtrusive, confusing, and stressful to rely on.  This is already implemented in other wikis.

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